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Carry handgun with round in the chamber.
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BehindBlueI's
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I posted this over 10 years ago: https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/i-am-begging-you-stop-carrying-on-an-empty-chamber.324050/
Nothing has changed my mind and I have lost count of how many more losers with empty chamber guns I've seen. The only difference between now and then is I cared enough to wade through the trolls and idiots to make the point. Now, the info is there and folks can take it or leave it.
Nothing has changed my mind and I have lost count of how many more losers with empty chamber guns I've seen. The only difference between now and then is I cared enough to wade through the trolls and idiots to make the point. Now, the info is there and folks can take it or leave it.
Peacekeeper3073
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Years ago, I had a friend who would never carry a round in the chamber. After a few speed draws safely from a bench and teaching him it was safe and of course faster. At that time, it was my Glock 23 vs his Beretta M9. He managed to jam it up once further convincing him one in the chamber is the best way to go.
NHT3
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According to Clint Smith, the operator not the firearm is the unsafe entity in the equation if someone is uncomfortable carrying a round in the chamber. I've never understood the argument to carry a pistol unloaded but as BBIs stated the argument is over 10 years running and still not resolved.
I feel it is a partly mental process in the process of carrying. First time you carry you feel everyone is staring at your firearm. After carrying a while you forget you have it. Hopefully once they are comfortable they begin carrying with one in the chamber.
I always believed in carrying a handgun in the manner that it was designed to be carried. 1911s are designed to be carried with the round chambered and cocked and locked. DA/SA are generally designed to be carried round chambered and decocked. Some can be carried cocked and locked like a 1911.
I like our brothers that want to compare their skills drawing and chambering a round in one motion to the IDF or Mossad...
I like our brothers that want to compare their skills drawing and chambering a round in one motion to the IDF or Mossad...
I wish people who carried on empty chambers would sign up for a force on force class, and carry it with an empty chamber. It’s a better way to learn there isn’t enough time than finding out in real life.
When you need your gun, you need to be ready right now.
When you need your gun, you need to be ready right now.
The fact this is still an item that gets re explained time and time again is what gets old. I hear some trying to justify an empty chamber and I have never heard a reasonable example. (And none of them train as Israeli commandos do but there’s more to that whole thing folks just don’t understand)
Just like the few I have heard say that they completely discount a modern striker because it doesn’t have a manual “safety” and they aren’t comfortable and don’t want to train themselves to be comfortable nobody can help them so as far as me, I don’t even try whatever you do you!
Just like the few I have heard say that they completely discount a modern striker because it doesn’t have a manual “safety” and they aren’t comfortable and don’t want to train themselves to be comfortable nobody can help them so as far as me, I don’t even try whatever you do you!
There is plenty of old stuff out there that isn't drop-safe and should not be carried chambered (or in my opinion, carried at all). Some of them are fun toys or interesting historical pieces, but there are so many quality, well-designed modern guns available at decent prices that there's no reason to carry stuff like that for defensive purposes.
Compatriot G
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I remember having a conversation about 35 years ago. The gentleman I was speaking with carried a Ruger Security-Six and carried only 5 rounds in it with the hammer on the empty chamber. I tried to explain to him about Ruger's transfer bar safety. It didn't matter.
And he will probably never be convinced of otherwise.
Huh, it was people on this sight that convinced me to carry with one in the chamber. I’d always been a revolver guy, I was nervous for various reasons.
I did just watch this video a few minutes ago. Apparently some Israeli defense forces carry without one in the chamber. The guy doesn’t get real specific as to which, but this draw and rack they use is interesting. Not for my edc, but interesting.
I did just watch this video a few minutes ago. Apparently some Israeli defense forces carry without one in the chamber. The guy doesn’t get real specific as to which, but this draw and rack they use is interesting. Not for my edc, but interesting.
@BehindBlueI's this post 10 years ago is what convinced me, so thank you!
Coincidentally, I told my wife earlier today that this story was my reasoning for always chambering a round and topping off the magazine. I was getting ready to run some errands and she asked me why I always took that step… I didn’t realize it had been 10 years.
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