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USPSA clubs are revolting!
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Yeah I’m not a cop, so that’s my problem. Not sure if I put that in my first comment. I just have a standard duty style kit. Plate carrier, belt, helmet, nods, etc,..
100% was IDPA or USPSA event. It was a total **** show and several people around Kokomo told me it would be lol
Bear in mind IDPA is originally* based on the concept of EDCC and shooting (somewhat) real world scenarios using carry gear. It is intention is for EDCCers to run their carry gear and practice what might happen. And since this aint Baghdad, and folks dont go about their day wearing plate carriers, kevlar brain buckets, and drop legs, those items arent allowed.
Granted many people have dedicated competition guns and dont shoot what they EDC, they are at least carrying something that COULD be EDCC'd without drawing attention to themselves .
*Yes it has deviated from that a bit, but overall its intention is to be at least partially realistic using EDC gear. Not battle rattle.
It’s not a drop leg, it’s just on the lowest setting. It’s no different than the guys with leather belts and holsters that barely cover the trigger guard lol Other than mine is actually safe imo vs those.
I never said I was shooting in full kit, that’s just what I based it on.
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Sorry for the confusion. I thought you mentioned the full kit because you wanted to shoot in it.
If that is not a drop leg in the picture, what do you consider a drop leg? Ive got a Safariland DL and thats where mine lands.
This is a standard drop leg pictured. Mine is no different than any Safariland UBL for a duty belt, it’s just a True North Modular Holster Adapter and gives me more room for adjustment. The leg strap just allows the holster to stay tight against your leg instead of flopping around when you’re running.
Edit** This is a bad picture but this is my other belt with the standard Safariland UBL that comes with all their holsters. This is what a typical cop would use on his belt. My other one is just billet. This one is plastic
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Twangbanger
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It looks like you could raise it up a notch and shoot "competitively," or leave where it is and shoot "non-competitively." Not sure what the big issue is here?
I don’t want to shoot competitively. I was told I couldn’t shoot at all with my current kit and I don’t know why…I just want somewhere to shoot and train.
Twangbanger
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That sounds questionable. There's no safety issue here. I have gotten "holster guff" from a particular ACC IDPA range fudd before (the rules are easy to mix up), but I would bet you five bucks if you show up to a bona fide USPSA event there, you will be able to run that rig no problem, one way or another. Not sure I see a problem here. I would not be antagonized about it. Try again when you know the correct people are involved and I bet you are GTG.
Appreciate it buddy! I thought about doing that, just registering and showing up lol I found out about it late in the year so it was one of the last events I went to. Might just try it this year haha
Twangbanger
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The "butt above the belt" thing is still a thing, but if you're not shooting for score, I expect you'd be welcome.
If they wanted to be petty, I can move it up a hole or two..But that would defeat the purpose as I set the holster length up professionally and how they should be set up to my exact arm length
It’s not about following the rules. I didn’t even know competition shooting was a real thing until recently. I built my kit as an everyday shooter, military style belt. The typical fudd wears a leather 1.5” with a random kydex holster that provides no real security to anyone around them or themselves. I don’t think that’s safe at all.
I already have a kit I’ve trained in for years, there’s no reason I shouldn’t be able to wear it because I’m not a cop. Mine is more safe than anyone else’s there.
jakemartens
Master
I know that as soon as I post on this thread I am going to get slammed, have at, but PM so it doesn’t get locked
In the continued meeting from the s@&$t show that was Mondays meeting the rules committee reviewed several different things. One was thigh straps/tie down rigs, this was approved. I am not sure exactly when it goes into effect, sorry I haven’t seen the updated minutes yet to be able to answer that. It is usually when the updated rulebook goes online and takes a week or two after the release of minutes.
This is different than thigh rigs. The butt of the gun and the distance from the belt rule stays the same, meaning that you can’t use a dropped thigh rig, just the strap. Also what was approved is how to measure the the distance from the belt, it is updated to state from the outer belt, instead of inner belt, making it easier and less subjective.
In case you missed it the Area 7 Director was put back on the board and rightly so. It was a bulls@&$t move and shouldn’t have taken place. Then the Area 4 Director stepped down, which should have been done last spring in my opinion due to his RO status and ineligibility. But I don’t vote I just get to gaslight them when I can and often do.
Currently there are some serious issues that are being faced, all due to individual agendas and politics being played. There have been unintended consequences with bylaw changes, and decisions that have been made by egos and hurt feelings. It is unfortunate because at the heart of what this organization truly is is what is being hurt. That is the clubs, and I get it, run them hit factor, outlaw whatever, but there is something to be said about knowing what you’re going to and what you’re going to get.
At the last indoor match there was the joke about, I don’t like that call, well go get the RO, CRO, the RM, email NROI.. oh you couldn’t if it was hit factor/outlaw. Issues with the stage, the rules, someone unsafe.. there isn’t a method to address it. Yes that is just my opinion and it is just something to thank about. Doesn’t mean you can’t have a bunch of fun at non USPSA match. There are lots of different things out there to go and enjoy that isn’t USPSA.
If you want change then it is about being able to vote in the board members that you feel best represent you. It shouldn’t be a popularity contest. But the only way you can do that is to maintain your membership.
There are now going to be
Area 1 interim and Area 1 normal (2025)
Area 3 interim and Area 3 normal (2025)
Area 4 interim and Area 4 normal (2026)
Area 5 normal (2024)
Area 2 normal (2024)
Area 7 normal (2026)
9 elections in the next 3 years. I hope that it gets better, but we have seen what it has looked like over the last 3 years with constant change and disruption. Helping to build the clubs up, making the matches better on the ground and growing it the club level is the future. Holding those that are elected accountable by being able to vote and be heard is what is needed.
In the continued meeting from the s@&$t show that was Mondays meeting the rules committee reviewed several different things. One was thigh straps/tie down rigs, this was approved. I am not sure exactly when it goes into effect, sorry I haven’t seen the updated minutes yet to be able to answer that. It is usually when the updated rulebook goes online and takes a week or two after the release of minutes.
This is different than thigh rigs. The butt of the gun and the distance from the belt rule stays the same, meaning that you can’t use a dropped thigh rig, just the strap. Also what was approved is how to measure the the distance from the belt, it is updated to state from the outer belt, instead of inner belt, making it easier and less subjective.
In case you missed it the Area 7 Director was put back on the board and rightly so. It was a bulls@&$t move and shouldn’t have taken place. Then the Area 4 Director stepped down, which should have been done last spring in my opinion due to his RO status and ineligibility. But I don’t vote I just get to gaslight them when I can and often do.
Currently there are some serious issues that are being faced, all due to individual agendas and politics being played. There have been unintended consequences with bylaw changes, and decisions that have been made by egos and hurt feelings. It is unfortunate because at the heart of what this organization truly is is what is being hurt. That is the clubs, and I get it, run them hit factor, outlaw whatever, but there is something to be said about knowing what you’re going to and what you’re going to get.
At the last indoor match there was the joke about, I don’t like that call, well go get the RO, CRO, the RM, email NROI.. oh you couldn’t if it was hit factor/outlaw. Issues with the stage, the rules, someone unsafe.. there isn’t a method to address it. Yes that is just my opinion and it is just something to thank about. Doesn’t mean you can’t have a bunch of fun at non USPSA match. There are lots of different things out there to go and enjoy that isn’t USPSA.
If you want change then it is about being able to vote in the board members that you feel best represent you. It shouldn’t be a popularity contest. But the only way you can do that is to maintain your membership.
There are now going to be
Area 1 interim and Area 1 normal (2025)
Area 3 interim and Area 3 normal (2025)
Area 4 interim and Area 4 normal (2026)
Area 5 normal (2024)
Area 2 normal (2024)
Area 7 normal (2026)
9 elections in the next 3 years. I hope that it gets better, but we have seen what it has looked like over the last 3 years with constant change and disruption. Helping to build the clubs up, making the matches better on the ground and growing it the club level is the future. Holding those that are elected accountable by being able to vote and be heard is what is needed.
What are the rules in measuring for the distance from belt?
jakemartens
Master
They are the same as far as the distance it is just the starting point will change to the outer belt vs the inner belt
The distance depends on the division
I don’t know the rules in the first place lol I wear a single outer belt, I have no inner anyways so would it matter?
jakemartens
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It matters based on the division and to ensure compliance. Depending on the division, which is based on the gun, it is either the width of an overlay or the length (credit card) width is Production, Carry Optics, Single Stack, L10,.
Length is Limited, Open, Limited Optics, Revolver.
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