IMPD officers begin responding to shots fired calls using gunshot detection technology

[KellyinAvon]

Hey INGO LEOs: what say you about Shot Caller?

IMPD officers begin responding to shots fired calls using gunshot detection technology

INDIANAPOLIS — Starting this week IMPD officers are actively responding to shots fired calls using gunshot detection technology in parts of the city. IMPD says officers sitting in their squad…

fox59.com

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I was very skeptical. I am now somewhat less skeptical but not fully onboard. It has potential to be a useful tool, primarily in recovering physical evidence like shell casings, post shooting. If the cost is worth it or not, I don't know. This is a test phase and we'll see where the data takes us.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I was very skeptical. I am now somewhat less skeptical but not fully onboard. It has potential to be a useful tool, primarily in recovering physical evidence like shell casings, post shooting. If the cost is worth it or not, I don't know. This is a test phase and we'll see where the data takes us.

Now I'm wanting to do a cost-benefit analysis. Not like the ones I do at work, this would be for fun!

 

[BigRed]

Asking for a friend:

When seconds matter and police are minutes away, will "detected" rounds delivered in defense change that math?

If so, how?

 

[Colt556]

Do a couple AK mag dumps on the East Side and when the cops respond over there commit your crime on the South side. JS..

 

[Bigtanker]

South Bend has had this for several years. Has it helped some? I do believe so. How much I don't know. I remember seeing news reports of "Shot Spotter alerted the police about 7 shots at xxxxxxx address. Police showed up and found a man bleeding."

But some folks up here were really jaded about it.

When the previous, new chief came to town, he pushed for it right away. After a year or so, it was put in. A few years after that, the chief retired and went to work for the company that made and installed the system.

 

[thompal]

Do a couple AK mag dumps on the East Side and when the cops respond over there commit your crime on the South side. JS..

I would guess that an M80 tossed out the window would have the same affect.

 

[thompal]

When the previous, new chief came to town, he pushed for it right away. After a year or so, it was put in. A few years after that, the chief retired and went to work for the company that made and installed the system.

I bet he got a good bonus for that, too!

 

[Bigtanker]

I bet he got a good bonus for that, too!

South Bend Police Chief Ron Teachman to resign

Scott Ruszkowski, a 27-year veteran of the department, will take over

www.southbendtribune.com

 

[Expat]

On patrol seems to show false alarms fairly often in Patterson…

 

[KellyinAvon]

But some folks up here were really jaded about it.

When the previous, new chief came to town, he pushed for it right away. After a year or so, it was put in. A few years after that, the chief retired and went to work for the company that made and installed the system.

I bet he got a good bonus for that, too!

That will make one jaded. Shot Spotter sounds like a defense contractor.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I was very skeptical. I am now somewhat less skeptical but not fully onboard. It has potential to be a useful tool, primarily in recovering physical evidence like shell casings, post shooting. If the cost is worth it or not, I don't know. This is a test phase and we'll see where the data takes us.

How do they quantify success? Response times decreased by XX% seems like an easy stat to look at, but does that give an accurate picture.

Seems like a decrease in "total time on call" (T-TOC, I just made that up) would be a good metric. The more time officers are in the area... no too much variation.

If anyone uses buzz words like "proprietary algorithms", the system will get a result that will be used to claim success. As the pointy-haired boss from Dilbert once said, "we're doing much better since we redefined success as a slowing of failure."

Does it get the good guys with guns to the scene of the bad guys with guns quicker and more accurately? I'd call that a success. Now measuring that and determining a cost benefit? Hhhhmmmmm. Higher arrest percentage? Now we're talking! If only "revolving door Ryan" would get voted out... seems like he wants to run for a different office.

 

[Shadow01]

Do high quality digital recordings of gun fire fool the system?


asking for a friend…

 

[Cameramonkey]

Do high quality digital recordings of gun fire fool the system?


asking for a friend…

Meh. Maybe with a big enough amp. Easier to just pop off a few rounds from a revolver and move on. Even blanks. Lather rinse repeat To waste resources.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I guess this is one way to automate police work. I’m assuming PDs everywhere are still having a hard time retaining and hiring officers. In industry when labor becomes too expensive (or you just can’t get it, I suppose) they figure out ways to do the job with less of it. I’m guessing this is a way to do the work with fewer officers.

 

[KLB]

Next we'll have to make suppressors illegal because the gangs will use them to escape this!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Next we'll have to make suppressors illegal because the gangs will use them to escape this!

I was going to ask how they affected these systems.

 

[Creedmoor]

Baltimore has 10 sq miles covered by a detection system since 2018.

 

[Leadeye]

I would imagine cities will see a lot more vendors with new tech in the future. It all depends on how much value the new tech brings for the cost against how many live officers the city could hire for the same money. That is, if the city can hire live officers. Robocop is still a ways off.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Baltimore has 10 sq miles covered by a detection system since 2018.

And we all know how safe Baltimore is.