If you’ve chosen not to take a Covid vaccine for whatever reason(s), it may be wise to reassess occasionally.

[Timjoebillybob]

Some are so smart they trust data so much they cannot see what is happening right before their eyes.

We are in a situation now where TPTB are doing just what they told us they were going to.

They told us.

They did it.

You guys are all distracted with data…

What is happening before your eyes is part of the data. But perhaps some aren't smart enough to realize that.

 

[Ingomike]

What is happening before your eyes is part of the data. But perhaps some aren't smart enough to realize that.

And the only data you get is from those in power…

 

[Timjoebillybob]

And the only data you get is from those in power…

Why do you say that?

 

[Ingomike]

Why do you say that?

The question proves my point…

 

[Timjoebillybob]

The question proves my point…

Only reason I see is I point out BS. Such as calling a web survey a study.

 

[tim87tr]

Only reason I see is I point out BS. Such as calling a web survey a study.

You pick out one item to argue. It's way way beyond that. You're still in 2020. The devastion to humanity can not be hidden at this point. It's probably going to get much worse.

Are there going to be Nobel Peace prizes in medicine for the kill shot, or crimes against humanity? Maybe you need to see more data and TPTB will spoon feed it to you as long as you're willing. The government doesn't give a rats arse if you live or die and is aggressively trying to destroy the Country and a large portion of it's populace. It's just not an accident that this was a global event.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

You pick out one item to argue. It's way way beyond that. You're still in 2020. The devastion to humanity can not be hidden at this point. It's probably going to get much worse.

Are there going to be Nobel Peace prizes in medicine for the kill shot, or crimes against humanity? Maybe you need to see more data and TPTB will spoon feed it to you as long as you're willing. The government doesn't give a rats arse if you live or die and is aggressively trying to destroy the Country and a large portion of it's populace. It's just not an accident that this was a global event.

Hey, I'm not the one that thinks the vax is turning people into some sort of hybrid.

 

[bobzilla]

Hey, I'm not the one that thinks the vax is turning people into some sort of hybrid.

dude. Stop. Please.

 

[churchmouse]

So I stop and find a slight disruption on the playground.
Let’s get back on track peoples.
Please.

 

[KLB]

There's a lot of talk of virus manipulation/gain of function if there's no appreciable increase in Total deaths. Is this a distraction? Of course these psychopaths mess with viruses. This may be a test run as noted. You know what would be much easier to manipulate? The Vax! Election flu is the setup and the Vax is the BioWeapon.

The gain of function is in how contagious it is. You can say a lot of things about Covid, but it is really hard to argue that it is not a hell of a lot more contagious than other strains.

 

[tim87tr]

The gain of function is in how contagious it is. You can say a lot of things about Covid, but it is really hard to argue that it is not a hell of a lot more contagious than other strains.

I'm a person that's not sure about it's existence after watching how this has been put into play for 20 years (see the recent USAwatchdog Dr. David Martin video). So many other sources as well because the pychopaths like to war game and put it in writing.

If it is a new form of the SarsCov2, then maybe initially it was more contagious. These maniacs driving all this fear has not helped anyone as people are so connected to social media and MSM. I got caught off guard myself early on in 2020 and the stress from the aggressive propoganda hurt someone in my family very badly health wise, but they are fine now. This is something that I won't ever forgot about what has been done to humanity, and that was only the start. I didn't start posting on here till about a year ago, well into the vax push.

If more people did get sick from the contagious aspect of the election flu, the statistics "given" to us do not show an appreciable total mortality increase. On the other hand the numbers on the innoculation experiment are showing a definite increase and it's now at a point that it can't be hidden as easily. The truth is outrunning the MSM narrative lies and there seems to be some desperation setting in.

So while we're all clacking away on a keyboard on this site, for the most part none of us know what others have been through and what drives their outlook on a tricky subject. Even after meeting the group at the NWI meet last Fall, I don't know what drives their posts on this board. I'm at a point now to live my best free life and had made long term decisions to get this point and enjoy it. That and the family and friends I mention having devastating results from the vaccine is what drives my perserverance on being adamantly against an experimental innoculation for an alleged virus that did not increase the total deaths in the US appreciably at all.

This forum has been a wealth of knowledge, a place to vent, and opportunity to meet somewhat like minded people online and in person. IMO with the latest increase in the innoculation fallout numbers getting out, there will much more emotional tension spikes while people continue to find out what's been done to them.

 

[KLB]

If more people did get sick from the contagious aspect of the election flu, the statistics "given" to us do not show an appreciable total mortality increase. On the other hand the numbers on the innoculation experiment are showing a definite increase and it's now at a point that it can't be hidden as easily. The truth is outrunning the MSM narrative lies and there seems to be some desperation setting in.

The mortality aspect is so hard to judge after they screwed with the numbers so much. Anecdotally though, I know a lot of people that came down with something. A lot more than any other year I can remember. I hadn't had a virus in probably 10 years. Sinus infections were my specialty. I ended up getting it. I was pretty sick for five days, and then I ended up with pneumonia. Thankfully I recognized the pneumonia and got it treated.

They can keep their "vaccine". I didn't get it, and I won't. It always did scare me more than the virus did. I don't personally know anyone that died from Covid, but I do know someone that died in their sleep at 57 even though they were supposed to be healthy.

 

[bobzilla]

It's real. Wife and I both dealt with it, I did twice (early 2020 and december 21). It's real and I could see how some people could die from it. But it's treatable. They just never bothered to tell people how.

 

[tim87tr]

The mortality aspect is so hard to judge after they screwed with the numbers so much. Anecdotally though, I know a lot of people that came down with something. A lot more than any other year I can remember. I hadn't had a virus in probably 10 years. Sinus infections were my specialty. I ended up getting it. I was pretty sick for five days, and then I ended up with pneumonia. Thankfully I recognized the pneumonia and got it treated.

They can keep their "vaccine". I didn't get it, and I won't. It always did scare me more than the virus did. I don't personally know anyone that died from Covid, but I do know someone that died in their sleep at 57 even though they were supposed to be healthy.

I agree that ALL numbers have been messed with. Last year I'd even stated that I didn't think they could manipulate Total number of deaths in the US as easily. Its always been just under 3 million for years, or around 1% of the population. When they assigned all the deaths to this virus, I heard and saw statistics that there weren't flu and pneumonia deaths, probably a high event mortality for an aging population. That's all cute temporarily to hide those numbers as virus deaths, but eventually there has to be a TOTAL number for deaths in the US. Doesn't matter where the numbers are manipulated and scattered. It's going to come out in some manner as there would be more than the .Gov to tally the totals. Many Insurance companies are stating an increase in deaths, large percentage, and could easily extrapolate the actual total number.

It's absolutely awful how all this craziness has been monetized with OUR money. Personally know someone that was PCR fake tested into a positive, held them captive in a nursing home for 10 days, and got a bunch of money for fraud. The family could not care of the person at the final weeks of life, and this monetized system took complete advantage of the situation and family at the expense of their loved one. They did see their loved one right before he passed. I saw pictures of this person slumped over in a wheelchair in the short stay of the nursing home when no one was allowed to visit. It hurt their will to live badly. This is of an epic out of control problem and people need to be hanged. Funeral director even told the family to apply for the $9000 c19 death, which they didn't. It's just how bad things have become.

Looks like you've made a good decision on the shot. Some of my more intelligent friends surprised me with their compliance and trusting the .gov psyop. Only four of us didn't and it was not pushed at work besides what I thought was an obvious bait and switch...."well you can't get them early" and then it was "well, you're considered front line workers" and people bought it. Damn, I should have lost my conscience and went into marketing and sales, but it's just not me.

So I got the total number of US deaths from the CDC site. I'll link to the 20 and 21 and I'd downloaded the 19 but that's a number that was roughly consistent for years.

Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2021

This report describes overall death rates in 2021 as well as COVID-19 death rates. COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in 2021 after heart disease and cancer.

www.cdc.gov

2019 2.854 M
2020 3.383 M
2021 3.458 M

The small increase in numbers are not going up solely from this alleged virus. Major lack of early treatment due to .Gov intentionally blocking, lockdowns, suicide, increase in crime/homocides, drug overdoses, etc all went up in 2020. There's going to be plenty of "extra" deaths assigned to c19 as most know. 2021 is most likely an addition of Vax deaths assigned as c19 or otherwise. Gotta get the c19 gravy money while you can!! So overall, again by their own numbers, this is the pandemic damn panic that shut down the entire world. No Words..............

 

[tim87tr]

It's real. Wife and I both dealt with it, I did twice (early 2020 and december 21). It's real and I could see how some people could die from it. But it's treatable. They just never bothered to tell people how.

How do you think it is different than any other year based on symptoms? I had the same as you with those dates, first was more 24 hour, second was 10 days, and just had a 5 day gut bug. They all involved a fever and gut issues, and the first I fasted 30 hours which really helped.

Other than of us being told it's something else, it's like other viruses I've had. Was surprised on this last one since I get a lot of vitamin D from the Sun. My current thought, as some FLCCC doctors have stated, is that overvaccination has created escape mutant variants because I'd have natural immunity from the other previous virus greek alphabet. Each one I've had, regardless of duration, has been less severe.

 

[KLB]

I love the deaths "involving" Covid. First it was deaths from Covid, then it became deaths with Covid.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Is it just me, or are people simultaneously saying (about what .gov says), "It's over! Let it go!", while continuing to beat this dead horse? Either it's over or it's not. I'm not going to devote any of my time worrying about it. Nothing will be done about the past wrongs, and I won't be getting any more Covid vaccines. Told my doctor as much at my last visit.

 

[phylodog]

It's real. Wife and I both dealt with it, I did twice (early 2020 and december 21). It's real and I could see how some people could die from it. But it's treatable. They just never bothered to tell people how.

They not only intentionally withheld information on what would work, they put out propaganda against it.

 

[indyblue]

How do you think it is different than any other year based on symptoms? I had the same as you with those dates, first was more 24 hour, second was 10 days, and just had a 5 day gut bug. They all involved a fever and gut issues, and the first I fasted 30 hours which really helped

I hadn't had a bad cold or flu for almost 10 years until covid. Then last January I got "something" that gave me slightly elevated temp for 5-6 hours,sinus drain and aches for a few days. I would never have known what it was (or that it wasn't a normal flu) except on the 5th day I lost my smell and decided to home test my self and it showed positive.

Loss of smell was the only symptom distinct from normal flu for me.

 

[bobzilla]

How do you think it is different than any other year based on symptoms? I had the same as you with those dates, first was more 24 hour, second was 10 days, and just had a 5 day gut bug. They all involved a fever and gut issues, and the first I fasted 30 hours which really helped.

Other than of us being told it's something else, it's like other viruses I've had. Was surprised on this last one since I get a lot of vitamin D from the Sun. My current thought, as some FLCCC doctors have stated, is that overvaccination has created escape mutant variants because I'd have natural immunity from the other previous virus greek alphabet. Each one I've had, regardless of duration, has been less severe.

Yeah no. You have no idea what you're talking about and are just sounding stupid now. My first go-round with the OG version was not something I've ever had before and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. The wife's struggle in Dec 21 lasted her months with a cough and fatigue. Yes. Covid is real. Yes some people died because of it. Most people do not. Saying idiotic **** like "it's not real" Just makes you look foolish at best. So please stop.

If you had gut issues, that wasn't Covid. Fatigue, foggy brain, fever, breathing issues, dehydration are all common. In fact, most people with the original version just don't eat for several days because A.) you're too tired and 2.) your brain just doesn't think about it. My second round was much easier for me but it still sucked for about 4 days.