HEA 1296 Signed, Gov Holcomb Now on the Pro-2A Bandwagon?

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  • KellyinAvon

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    I'm a bit cynical even with ConC becoming law 1 July 2022. Same guy who said basically F-your Constitutional Rights when the question on Constitutional Carry came up at the 2020 debates. Same guy who sent his hyperbolic ISP Superintendent to spout unsubstantiated garbage at House and Senate hearings while in uniform. Same guy who DIDN'T sign HEA 1296 on the 15, 16, 17th, or 18th.

    Without NRA-ILA (AKA NRA members), ISRPA (AKA ISRPA members), and yes INGO (AKA US!!! We the INGO? I like that!!) melting the phone lines, filling the inboxes, mailboxes, FAX hoppers, etc... would HEA 1296 be the law of the land in 99 days?

    Did the internal numbers say to go this route for his political future? Does he think we won't remember?

    One hour after HEA 1296 was signed, this hit my SPAM folder:

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    Yesterday from Kyle Hupfer:

    KellyinAvon,

    Our Second Amendment rights are stronger than ever here in Indiana, thanks to the leadership of Republicans in the legislature and Governor Eric Holcomb.

    This week, Governor Holcomb signed HB 1296 into law, which means that Hoosiers ages 18 and older will no longer be required to get a permit in order to carry a handgun. Indiana joins 23 other states with similar laws, including Vermont, which has had a constitutional carry law in place since it became a state.

    Importantly, all citizens who are prohibited under state or federal laws from possessing a firearm will still be prohibited, and can be prosecuted for doing so.

    The Second Amendment has been debated for years, and time after time, the U.S. Supreme Court upholds that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    We are proud that Republican leadership in Indiana means that your Constitutional rights are protected. If you’re proud too, please consider making a donation today so that we can continue to support candidates and causes that put your freedoms and liberties FIRST.

    Thanks for your continued support!



    Today from the Holcomb Crew:

    KellyinAvon ,

    Eric has been BUSY in 2022 so far, signing a number of pro-Hoosier bills that give our citizens more freedom over their lives.

    Today, we’re excited to let you know that he has signed HEA 1296, which officially grants Hoosiers the right to carry a handgun without a permit.

    Here’s what Governor Holcomb said about signing HEA 1296:

    “The Second Amendment has been debated for years, yet time and again our U.S. Supreme Court has reaffirmed this important constitutional right that I fully support. Twenty-three other states have laws comparable to HEA 1296. Vermont has had a constitutional carry law in place since it became a state, and several other states have had a similar law for more than a decade. HEA 1296, which I've signed today, entrusts Hoosiers who can lawfully carry a handgun to responsibly do so within our State.

    It’s important to note that if a person is prohibited, under federal or state laws, from possessing a firearm before this law goes into effect, that person will still be prohibited. And if a prohibited person has a firearm, he or she can be prosecuted. Firearm permits will remain available, without fee, to anyone who wants or needs one, such as Hoosiers desiring to carry a firearm to, through or in another state that has reciprocity with Indiana.” – Governor Eric J. Holcomb

    KellyinAvon , Governor Holcomb is proud to make Indiana the 24th state in America to pass permit-less carry into law
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    As always, Eric will continue his work to make Indiana the BEST state in America, and he’s so happy to have your support along the way.

    Sincerely,
    Holcomb Crew
     

    MCgrease08

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    INGO a week ago: "Eff Holcomb! He's a spineless weenie. I won't vote for him for him dog catcher if he doesn't sign the CC bill."

    Holcomb signs CC bill.

    INGO immediately after: "Eff Holcomb! He's a spineless weenie. I won't vote for him for him dog catcher despite him signing the CC bill."

    Never change fellas.
     

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    He was under pressure. If he had vetoed then all other states in the region besides us and Illinois would have some form of permit-less carry.

    I am not happy long guns still have to unloaded and cased while in vehicles... that should have been struck too.

    Green is "Constitutional"... Michigan and Wisconsin are license/permit-free for open carry.
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    K_W

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    Is there a cite for this?
    Last week someone here posted a portion of Indiana gun laws with the changes made by 1296 struck out... In that post I saw parts of existing law talking about transporting long guns... It said that long guns could not be transported in a vehicle unless unloaded and cased. I have not yet been able to finds that post... I may have misread.
     

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    Last week someone here posted a portion of Indiana gun laws with the changes made by 1296 struck out... In that post I saw parts of existing law talking about transporting long guns... It said that long guns could not be transported in a vehicle unless unloaded and cased. I have not yet been able to finds that post... I may have misread.


    I'll have to do some checking later.

    Heck, that is every day ending in Y
     

    K_W

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    Relevenat parts... unless I am mistaken or this only applies to state property. This is the same section that dictates headlamps and other traffic laws.

    Sec. 23 . (a) An individual shall not operate a vehicle under any of the following conditions:

    ...

    (9) While transporting on or in the vehicle a firearm, unless the firearm is:

    (A) unloaded;  and

    (B) securely encased or equipped with and made inoperative by a manufactured keylocked trigger housing mechanism.

    ...

    b) Subsection (a)(9) does not apply to a person who is carrying a firearm:

    (1) if:

    (A) the firearm is a handgun;  and

    (B) the person has been issued an unlimited handgun license to carry a handgun under IC 35-47-2;

    (2) if:

    (A) the firearm is a handgun;  and

    (B) the person is not required to possess a license to carry a handgun under IC 35-47-2-2 ;  or

    (3) if the person carrying the firearm is operating the vehicle on property that the person:

    (A) owns;

    (B) has a contractual interest in;

    (C) otherwise legally possesses;  or

    (D) has permission from a person described in clauses (A) through (C) to possess a firearm on.
     

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    Relevenat parts... unless I am mistaken or this only applies to state property.

    Sec. 23 . (a) An individual shall not operate a vehicle under any of the following conditions:

    ...

    (9) While transporting on or in the vehicle a firearm, unless the firearm is:

    (A) unloaded;  and

    (B) securely encased or equipped with and made inoperative by a manufactured keylocked trigger housing mechanism.

    ...

    b) Subsection (a)(9) does not apply to a person who is carrying a firearm:

    (1) if:

    (A) the firearm is a handgun;  and

    (B) the person has been issued an unlimited handgun license to carry a handgun under IC 35-47-2;

    (2) if:

    (A) the firearm is a handgun;  and

    (B) the person is not required to possess a license to carry a handgun under IC 35-47-2-2 ;  or

    (3) if the person carrying the firearm is operating the vehicle on property that the person:

    (A) owns;

    (B) has a contractual interest in;

    (C) otherwise legally possesses;  or

    (D) has permission from a person described in clauses (A) through (C) to possess a firearm on.
    That all has to do with handguns and will mostly be irrelevant with the passing of constitutional carry.

    I believe Indiana is mostly silent on the carry of long guns, which allows the carry and transportation of them legal, loaded or unloaded, if you are a proper person 18 years or older.
    You can walk down the street with a loaded AR and as long as your "proper" and not committing a crime it's perfectly legal

    Look closer where it says "if the firearm is a handgun" That's what makes the difference
     

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    KellyinAvon , Governor Holcomb is proud to make Indiana the 24th state in America to pass permit-less carry into law.
    Ughhh, I think I just threw up a little...



    Do the professional politician hacks believe we are so brain dead we didn't notice Eric the deceitful doing everything he could to kill Constitutional carry?

    I loath these worthless pieces of s***!
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Ughhh, I think I just threw up a little...



    Do the professional politician hacks believe we are so brain dead we didn't notice Eric the deceitful doing everything he could to kill Constitutional carry?

    I loath these worthless pieces of s***!
    I think that is what they are betting on.
     

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