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  • maxmayhem

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    SIG P6
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    This is my first sig. I have owned about 40+/- different handguns and I have to say that this pistol is amazing. It is a joy to shoot. Although there were some adjustments I had to make compared to shooting my Glock 19. This gun is chambered in the 9mm which is my preferred caliber for practice and ccw.
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    The Pros of this pistol are many.
    Ergonomic
    Reliable
    Perfect Size and length and weight is within my tolerance given the metal construction of this firearm (I want to say it is aluminum and steel)
    Double Action
    Single Action accuracy
    Tight Tolerances and appears to be very well made. It does not rattle a bit.
    Controls off the slide
    Sleek Lines that are aesthetically appealing
    All metal frame construction
    All metal guide rod
    Weight of gun reduces recoil
    Long first trigger pull
    Bobbed hammer so you can tell if the gun has been dropped or not
    Great sights and even better sight picture
    Nice Grips
    Easy to take down and reassemble
    Price-These go for 350-400 depending on your negotiating skills compared to other sigs you could get for around 750-800(?) At 350-400 this is a wonderful value. I absolutely love this pistol and probably will never get rid of it.

    I have never held a firearm that is put together better than this one in my opinion. There is not a shake or rattle on the entire firearm. The gun fits my hand perfectly as if it were made just for me.


    I shot about 150-200 rounds of fmj thru this pistol with no failures. I have heard that some people have trouble with jhp through the gun but I did not know this prior to my range trip. I did run some polymer tipped hornady critical defense through the pistol with flawless reliability. These are hollow points but not true hollow points due to the polymer tip. I wish I had known about the feed ramp design being for fmj or I would have tested with jhp in various brands. I think it would have ran them just fine simply because of the strength of the guide rod spring on this weapon.

    Here are some cons I found of the gun:
    The decocker, though it is not on the slide, is almost in the same place my muscle memory says the slide stop/slide release is on my Glock 19. This may cause confusion in a tactical situation but I have been trying to get in the habit of racking the slide to release the slide. This has been in contrast to some of my older habits.
    The controls are great for a righty but a lefty might be at a definite disadvantage with this handgun. All the controls are to be actuated with the right thumb. I don't really know how a lefty would use this gun and not be at a disadvantage tactically.
    The other disadvantage is the lower capacity of 8 +1 rounds. This should be enough for most social encounters but you never know. The mag did not seem to enter the pistol intuitively but this may improve with practice and muscle memory.
    There is no chambered round indicator that I am aware of. The gun looks exactly the same loaded as unloaded. This should not be a problem if you follow firearm safety protocal (See the four rules)
    The controls on the firearm seem like they would tear up your fingers if you are racking the slide really fast without having your hand properly placed on the slide.
    There is no safety on the gun. This is not exactly a con for me but putting it in this section because it is something that it lacks that someone may want. I can do with or without it. Part of me prefers the simplicity of having no safety. It is much easier to train my wife how to use the gun without a safety. These confuse her and she prefers the simplicity of the glock. It is like pulling teeth to explain to her the difference between single and double action.
    The other thing I wish that it had was higher capacity than 8 +1 rounds but this does lend to a thinner design/better grip for me.
    I did some research on the mags and it looks like they go for around $50 (ouch!)
    Another con is that my finger (just the tip)can barely reach the front of the trigger guard. This may prove effective for gloved fingers though.
    Another con of the gun might be the height but I think it works for this firearm because, in my estimation, it is beautiful and nicely crafted.

    This is a german surplus pistol and is similar to a p225 or p220(???). I cant seem to find a lot of information about this firearm and this surprises me because of the quality of this pistol. I need a belt holster for it. I have a holster with a thumb break from the person I traded. It will do but I would like to explore other options.

    Accuracy was fine with the gun. I was shooting at about 21 feet. I was shooting low at first and this could have been due to the grip angle of my glock confusing my muscle memory. I must say that at first I was shooting very low but eventually I was able to get about 4-5 inch groups just below center of my target after about 2 mags. It would be wrong for me not to confess that I did have an accidental firing of the gun after coming out of recoil. The gun was pointed down range and hit the target but the point is that I did not intend to fire the weapon. I am not sure but I might attribute this to the longer reset and the difference in single and double action coupled with my extensive time shooting glocks(and inexperience with this weapon). I need more practice with this weapon before I can assess its reliability and before I can become proficient in the use of this firearm. Overall my experience was positive and I am eager to get your opinions and information on this firearm. I wish I would have taken pics of my target but it was raining and my hands were full at Atterbury so you have to take my word for it on the accuracy.
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    maxmayhem

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    P225

    This is good to know...I read that there are some sig purists that are snobs toward the p6...This is my first sig. I havent really considered them due to the price but I have to say I love this own...Sig owners should be very proud of this firearm representing the quality of their favorite firearm
    The Sig P6 is the P225.
     
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    jeremy

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    This is good to know...I read that there are some sig purists that are snobs toward the p6...This is my first sig. I havent really considered them due to the price but I have to say I love this own...Sig owners should be very proud of this firearm representing the quality of the favorite firearm
    I do not understand the dislike from the Snobs myself, unless they are butt hurt that you can buy a Sig for less than $700?!

    Here is a little bit about you P225/P6...

    P225/P6

    The SIG P225 is a more compact version of the SIG P220. When it became apparent that the Swiss Army was looking for a new pistol, plans were set into motion. The SIG P210 was just too costly to manufacture, and the Swiss Army wanted a cheaper semi-automatic handgun, but it still had to provide excellent functionality and a double-action trigger. SIG, in cooperation with a German arms company, J.P. Sauer & Sohn, developed a new pistol. In 1975 the Pist 75 (as it was known in the Swiss Army service), or 9mm SIG-Sauer P220, debuted with various new and inventive features. It utilized a single column magazine holding eight 9 mm rounds and had a 3.9 in. barrel.


    A new German police standard, in the mid-1970s, prompted SIG-Sauer, Heckler & Koch, and Walther to develop new pistols that met the standard: the Walther P5, the SIG-Sauer P225 (known as the P6) and the Heckler & Koch P7. (In addition, Mauser had a design that never went into full production.) Each German state was free to buy whichever pistol it wanted to. Initially, the P220 was submitted; the P225/P6 was created to conform with the mid-1970s West German police requirements for its standard service pistol. The SIG-Sauer P225 was the least expensive (due mainly to the inventive design) and received the majority of the orders. To be able to manufacture that many handguns, SIG acquired a controlling interest in J. P. Sauer & Sohn in Eckenförde, Germany to manufacture parts for the P220. This is also where all P225s were manufactured. The only difference between the P6 and P225—the P225 (which was adopted by US civilian law enforcement) has a lighter trigger pull, whereas the P6's trigger pull is heavier. The P225 has tritium fixed sights; P6s had fixed sights only. Genuine P225s manufactured for the West German Police will have a "P6" stamp on the right side of the slide. A new police standard was adopted in Germany in 1995, and the P225 is in the process of being replaced. German police pistols can be identified by the hammer, which has small "ear" or "hook". According to section 7.7 of the German manual, the cutout is the Deformationssporn, which means “deformation spur”. This was a requirement of the West German Police for all their pistols, regardless of manufacturer, to alert police armorers if the pistol was dropped on its hammer.
     

    maxmayhem

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    P6

    That is great information. In my research I did find that the commercial version has an improved feed ramp angle. Is that true to your knowledge?
    I do not understand the dislike from the Snobs myself, unless they are butt hurt that you can buy a Sig for less than $700?!

    Here is a little bit about you P225/P6...

    P225/P6

    The SIG P225 is a more compact version of the SIG P220. When it became apparent that the Swiss Army was looking for a new pistol, plans were set into motion. The SIG P210 was just too costly to manufacture, and the Swiss Army wanted a cheaper semi-automatic handgun, but it still had to provide excellent functionality and a double-action trigger. SIG, in cooperation with a German arms company, J.P. Sauer & Sohn, developed a new pistol. In 1975 the Pist 75 (as it was known in the Swiss Army service), or 9mm SIG-Sauer P220, debuted with various new and inventive features. It utilized a single column magazine holding eight 9 mm rounds and had a 3.9 in. barrel.


    A new German police standard, in the mid-1970s, prompted SIG-Sauer, Heckler & Koch, and Walther to develop new pistols that met the standard: the Walther P5, the SIG-Sauer P225 (known as the P6) and the Heckler & Koch P7. (In addition, Mauser had a design that never went into full production.) Each German state was free to buy whichever pistol it wanted to. Initially, the P220 was submitted; the P225/P6 was created to conform with the mid-1970s West German police requirements for its standard service pistol. The SIG-Sauer P225 was the least expensive (due mainly to the inventive design) and received the majority of the orders. To be able to manufacture that many handguns, SIG acquired a controlling interest in J. P. Sauer & Sohn in Eckenförde, Germany to manufacture parts for the P220. This is also where all P225s were manufactured. The only difference between the P6 and P225—the P225 (which was adopted by US civilian law enforcement) has a lighter trigger pull, whereas the P6's trigger pull is heavier. The P225 has tritium fixed sights; P6s had fixed sights only. Genuine P225s manufactured for the West German Police will have a "P6" stamp on the right side of the slide. A new police standard was adopted in Germany in 1995, and the P225 is in the process of being replaced. German police pistols can be identified by the hammer, which has small "ear" or "hook". According to section 7.7 of the German manual, the cutout is the Deformationssporn, which means “deformation spur”. This was a requirement of the West German Police for all their pistols, regardless of manufacturer, to alert police armorers if the pistol was dropped on its hammer.
     

    jeremy

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    That is great information. In my research I did find that the commercial version has an improved feed ramp angle. Is that true to your knowledge?
    The P6 was made for the German Polzei, and like all things Government Bought it was built to there Spec. Which required FMJ Ammo only, the reason for the less than forgiving Feed Ramp. The P225 is made for the Commercial/Civilian Market and designed to fire a wider range of Ammo, hence the more forgiving feed ramp....

    If it is really that big of an issue for you just drop a P225 Barrel in your P6... ;)
     

    JohnP82

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    :rockwoot: Congrats! Nice gun :yesway: Very glad to hear you are happy with it!

    I am not a Sig guy, nothing wrong with them just not for me, but I have always been impressed with the P6 for its price. I am sure it will serve you well.
     

    Gun Bunny

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    This is good to know...I read that there are some sig purists that are snobs toward the p6...This is my first sig. I havent really considered them due to the price but I have to say I love this own...Sig owners should be very proud of this firearm representing the quality of their favorite firearm

    I've never heard anyone putting the P6 down, it's a Sig after all. German made, German quality. I owned one for a while, wish I never sold it. Fantastic pistol.

    Sure it has the funny looking hammer to let the armorer know if it has been dropped on the hammer, other than that it is a P225! ;)
     

    rockhopper46038

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    I do prefer the P228 over the P225/P6, but I agree the P6 is a fine pistol. If you want to make it even finer, Bruce Gray of Grayguns Inc. is running a special on his reduced reset action package for carry pistols. The end result is a beautifully smooth trigger pull with about half the reset.
     

    CandRFan

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    +1 for the P6 love! I remember a few years ago when these hit the market...there were threads all over the place. I bought mine then for $299...falling all over myself to count the cash!

    I kick around the idea every so often to send it back to Sig for their refinishing and re-servicing packages...
     

    DeadeyeChrista'sdad

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    Great Pix! And a great choice. I love the P6's too. Wish I'd never sold my first one. So glad to have.been able to acquire a really.stock one here on the classifieds. Thank you INGO. A fella I really looked up to carried a 225 for his duty weapon back in the day. I never.forgot how cool that thing was.
     

    jeremy

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    Jetrefz

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    nice writeup

    this is some good information about the sig. I would say that these are going to go up in value as time goes by. If you find one like this you should hold on to it
    SIG P6
    IMG_0005-1.jpg

    This is my first sig. I have owned about 40+/- different handguns and I have to say that this pistol is amazing. It is a joy to shoot. Although there were some adjustments I had to make compared to shooting my Glock 19. This gun is chambered in the 9mm which is my preferred caliber for practice and ccw.
    IMG_0003-1.jpg

    IMG_0002-1.jpg

    The Pros of this pistol are many.
    Ergonomic
    Reliable
    Perfect Size and length and weight is within my tolerance given the metal construction of this firearm (I want to say it is aluminum and steel)
    Double Action
    Single Action accuracy
    Tight Tolerances and appears to be very well made. It does not rattle a bit.
    Controls off the slide
    Sleek Lines that are aesthetically appealing
    All metal frame construction
    All metal guide rod
    Weight of gun reduces recoil
    Long first trigger pull
    Bobbed hammer so you can tell if the gun has been dropped or not
    Great sights and even better sight picture
    Nice Grips
    Easy to take down and reassemble
    Price-These go for 350-400 depending on your negotiating skills compared to other sigs you could get for around 750-800(?) At 350-400 this is a wonderful value. I absolutely love this pistol and probably will never get rid of it.

    I have never held a firearm that is put together better than this one in my opinion. There is not a shake or rattle on the entire firearm. The gun fits my hand perfectly as if it were made just for me.


    I shot about 150-200 rounds of fmj thru this pistol with no failures. I have heard that some people have trouble with jhp through the gun but I did not know this prior to my range trip. I did run some polymer tipped hornady critical defense through the pistol with flawless reliability. These are hollow points but not true hollow points due to the polymer tip. I wish I had known about the feed ramp design being for fmj or I would have tested with jhp in various brands. I think it would have ran them just fine simply because of the strength of the guide rod spring on this weapon.

    Here are some cons I found of the gun:
    The decocker, though it is not on the slide, is almost in the same place my muscle memory says the slide stop/slide release is on my Glock 19. This may cause confusion in a tactical situation but I have been trying to get in the habit of racking the slide to release the slide. This has been in contrast to some of my older habits.
    The controls are great for a righty but a lefty might be at a definite disadvantage with this handgun. All the controls are to be actuated with the right thumb. I don't really know how a lefty would use this gun and not be at a disadvantage tactically.
    The other disadvantage is the lower capacity of 8 +1 rounds. This should be enough for most social encounters but you never know. The mag did not seem to enter the pistol intuitively but this may improve with practice and muscle memory.
    There is no chambered round indicator that I am aware of. The gun looks exactly the same loaded as unloaded. This should not be a problem if you follow firearm safety protocal (See the four rules)
    The controls on the firearm seem like they would tear up your fingers if you are racking the slide really fast without having your hand properly placed on the slide.
    There is no safety on the gun. This is not exactly a con for me but putting it in this section because it is something that it lacks that someone may want. I can do with or without it. Part of me prefers the simplicity of having no safety. It is much easier to train my wife how to use the gun without a safety. These confuse her and she prefers the simplicity of the glock. It is like pulling teeth to explain to her the difference between single and double action.
    The other thing I wish that it had was higher capacity than 8 +1 rounds but this does lend to a thinner design/better grip for me.
    I did some research on the mags and it looks like they go for around $50 (ouch!)
    Another con is that my finger (just the tip)can barely reach the front of the trigger guard. This may prove effective for gloved fingers though.
    Another con of the gun might be the height but I think it works for this firearm because, in my estimation, it is beautiful and nicely crafted.

    This is a german surplus pistol and is similar to a p225 or p220(???). I cant seem to find a lot of information about this firearm and this surprises me because of the quality of this pistol. I need a belt holster for it. I have a holster with a thumb break from the person I traded. It will do but I would like to explore other options.

    Accuracy was fine with the gun. I was shooting at about 21 feet. I was shooting low at first and this could have been due to the grip angle of my glock confusing my muscle memory. I must say that at first I was shooting very low but eventually I was able to get about 4-5 inch groups just below center of my target after about 2 mags. It would be wrong for me not to confess that I did have an accidental firing of the gun after coming out of recoil. The gun was pointed down range and hit the target but the point is that I did not intend to fire the weapon. I am not sure but I might attribute this to the longer reset and the difference in single and double action coupled with my extensive time shooting glocks(and inexperience with this weapon). I need more practice with this weapon before I can assess its reliability and before I can become proficient in the use of this firearm. Overall my experience was positive and I am eager to get your opinions and information on this firearm. I wish I would have taken pics of my target but it was raining and my hands were full at Atterbury so you have to take my word for it on the accuracy.
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