Moving out of state, what becomes my lifetime licence?

[frostymonk]

I’m retired and thinking of moving south, Georgia or Florida. What will happen to my Lifetime resident license? Can it be altered to non resident status, or do I loose it?

 

[CLowe]

You loose it

 

[SteveM4A1]

Keep it in case you move back.

 

[Cameramonkey]

When you move, contact ISP and give them your new (out of state) address. Your license becomes "inactive" but doesnt go away.

If you ever move back, submit a new (Indiana) address and your license is active again! (you'll have to pay to have a new permit printed)

The good thing is Indiana honors quite a few other permits, so odds are the resident permit you get after you move will cover you when you come back to visit.

 

[ModernGunner]

^^ This. ^^

 

[Timjoebillybob]

You loose it

When you move, contact ISP and give them your new (out of state) address. Your license becomes "inactive" but doesnt go away.

^^ This. ^^

Cite please. I can't find anything in the IC or IAC that says that. Can you?
But here are some other threads to check out.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...se/321226-lifetime-ltch-moving-out-state.html
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...fense/351613-carry-permit-legal-question.html

 

[chezuki]

Cite please. I can't find anything in the IC or IAC that says that. Can you?
But here are some other threads to check out.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...se/321226-lifetime-ltch-moving-out-state.html
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...fense/351613-carry-permit-legal-question.html

This.

Nothing happens to it other than you have to change the address. It remains valid in Indiana as well as any states that recognize Indiana's LTCH as long as they don't require you to be a resident of the state where your license was issued.

It does not go dormant, it does not go "in the ice box", I'd does not get deactivated.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Nothing happens to it other than you have to change the address. It remains valid in Indiana as well as any states that recognize Indiana's LTCH as long as they don't require you to be a resident of the state where your license was issued.

One caveat, it may not be valid in your new state of residence. Some states even though they honor other states permits require a resident to have that states license. IN is one for instance, we honor all state and foreign country permit/licenses as long as you are not a resident of IN.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I’m retired and thinking of moving south, Georgia or Florida. What will happen to my Lifetime resident license? Can it be altered to non resident status, or do I loose it?​

Update your address to:

123 Ballotchad Way
Alligator Alley, Florida

or

321 Banjo Way
Brownjug, Joejuh

 

[remauto1187]

What on earth are you all doing , GUESSING?

You cannot have a VALID IN ltch as a non resident UNLESS you work full time in IN. I was a resident of IL up until spring of last year and had a VALID IN non-resident ltch and a IL drivers license to go along with it. Indiana State Police required me to have my manager sign a paper that stated I worked full time in IN at my place of employment. The address on my LTCH was my place of employment in IN.
This is my actual experience....not a guess.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Your apples are not his oranges.

 

[Paul30]

The address on my LTCH was my place of employment in IN. This is my actual experience....not a guess.

That was your experience to GET the LTCH, once you have the LIFETIME Indiana LTCH, you have it for a LIFETIME. The only exception is if you commit a felony or other crime that makes you not able to own a firearm. That isn't a guess, that's the facts. Weather other states consider it a non resident license and honor it, that is another question. I would change my address as required, and also get a FL license since Florida will only honor an out of state license for 90 days after you become a FL resident. Keep the IN LTCH, it is still good. I'm in the same situation conisdering a FL residence, and will follow that process.

 

[chezuki]

What on earth are you all doing , GUESSING?

You cannot have a VALID IN ltch as a non resident UNLESS you work full time in IN. I was a resident of IL up until spring of last year and had a VALID IN non-resident ltch and a IL drivers license to go along with it. Indiana State Police required me to have my manager sign a paper that stated I worked full time in IN at my place of employment. The address on my LTCH was my place of employment in IN.
This is my actual experience....not a guess.

The Indiana code only states that licenses will not be ISSUED without a residence or place of business in Indiana. It makes no comment on maintaining residency or place of business after the LTCH is issued. The code is also very specific about the criteria for revoking a license. Moving out of state is not one of these criteria.

 

[remauto1187]

The Indiana code only states that licenses will not be ISSUED without a residence or place of business in Indiana. It makes no comment on maintaining residency or place of business after the LTCH is issued. The code is also very specific about the criteria for revoking a license. Moving out of state is not one of these criteria.

I never stated the license would get revoked. But I am stating that it is NOT valid once the holder changes residency to another state or is NOT working full time in IN while a resident of another state. The OP asked if it could be converted to a non-resident...which the answer is no since the OP did not mention that they were going to be employed full time in IN and the OP also asked if ltch would "lost".... Not lost but totally useless unless the OP returned to IN as a resident or full time employee/employer later in life.

 

[chezuki]

But I am stating that it is NOT valid once the holder changes residency to another state or is NOT working full time in IN while a resident of another state.

Show me where it says that in the code. You won't find it because it doesn't exist.

Here's all the Indiana code says about when a LTCH becomes "NOT valid":

A lifetime license is
valid for the life of the individual receiving the license.

 

[SteveM4A1]

I never stated the license would get revoked. But I am stating that it is NOT valid once the holder changes residency to another state or is NOT working full time in IN while a resident of another state. The OP asked if it could be converted to a non-resident...which the answer is no since the OP did not mention that they were going to be employed full time in IN and the OP also asked if ltch would "lost".... Not lost but totally useless unless the OP returned to IN as a resident or full time employee/employer later in life.

Are you guessing?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Are you guessing?

Well, he is just not on the same frequency as the OP.

I have to e-mail Pete Wood about some other stuff Saturday AM. I'm using this to remind me to see if he cannot include this on the ISP website.

Update your license with the new address, move, your license is in the freezer until you come back to visit or move back, no big deal.

 

[chezuki]

Your apples are not his oranges.

 

[CLowe]

 

[Timjoebillybob]

What on earth are you all doing , GUESSING?

Nope, no guessing. Going by the IC and IAC along with info provided by the ISP. The info provided by the ISP is in the thread I linked above along with some of the info from the IC and IAC. I'll provide the relevant IC here.

IC 35-47-2-5
Suspension or revocation of license; failure to return license; rules
concerning procedure for suspending or revoking license
Sec. 5. (a) The superintendent may suspend or revoke any license
issued under this chapter if the superintendent has reasonable grounds
to believe that the person's license should be suspended or revoked.
(b) Documented evidence that a person is not a "proper person" to
be licensed as defined by IC 35-47-1-7, or is prohibited under section
3(g)(5) of this chapter from being issued a license, shall be grounds
for immediate suspension or revocation of a license previously issued
under this chapter. However, if a license is suspended or revoked
based solely on an arrest under section 3(g)(5) of this chapter, the
license shall be reinstated upon the acquittal of the defendant in that
case or upon the dismissal of the charges for the specific offense.
(c) A person who knowingly or intentionally fails to promptly
return the person's license after written notice of suspension or
revocation commits a Class A misdemeanor. The observation of a
handgun license in the possession of a person whose license has been
suspended or revoked constitutes a sufficient basis for the arrest of
that person for violation of this subsection.
(d) The superintendent shall establish rules under IC 4-22-2
concerning the procedure for suspending or revoking a person's
license.

IC 35-47-1-7
"Proper person"
Sec. 7. "Proper person" means a person who:
(1) does not have a conviction for resisting law enforcement
under IC 35-44.1-3-1 within five (5) years before the person
applies for a license or permit under this chapter;
(2) does not have a conviction for a crime for which the person
could have been sentenced for more than one (1) year;
(3) does not have a conviction for a crime of domestic violence
(as defined in IC 35-31.5-2-78), unless a court has restored the
person's right to possess a firearm under IC 35-47-4-7;
(4) is not prohibited by a court order from possessing a
handgun;
(5) does not have a record of being an alcohol or drug abuser as
defined in this chapter;
(6) does not have documented evidence which would give rise
to a reasonable belief that the person has a propensity for violent
or emotionally unstable conduct;
(7) does not make a false statement of material fact on the
person's application;
(8) does not have a conviction for any crime involving an
inability to safely handle a handgun;
(9) does not have a conviction for violation of the provisions of
this article within five (5) years of the person's application;
(10) does not have an adjudication as a delinquent child for an
act that would be a felony if committed by an adult, if the
person applying for a license or permit under this chapter is less
than twenty-three (23) years of age;
(11) has not been involuntarily committed, other than a
temporary commitment for observation or evaluation, to a
mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful
authority;
(12) has not been the subject of a:
(A) ninety (90) day commitment as a result of proceeding
under IC 12-26-6; or
(B) regular commitment under IC 12-26-7; or
(13) has not been found by a court to be mentally incompetent,
including being found:
(A) not guilty by reason of insanity;
(B) guilty but mentally ill; or
(C) incompetent to stand trial.

240 IAC 3-2-1 Temporary suspension; notice; hearing
Authority: IC 10-11-2-10
Affected: IC 35-47-2-3; IC 35-47-2-4
Sec. 1. SUSPENSION–TEMPORARY. (1) The Superintendent will temporarily suspend a firearm license upon the written
request of a local police department, sheriff's department, prosecutor or full time police officer, without prior hearing.
(2) The request for suspension must state reasonable grounds for such suspension.
(3) Upon suspension, the licensee will be given notice of right to immediate hearing and grounds for the suspension.
(4) An authority requesting suspension must appear and prove the grounds for permanent revocation of the license.
(5) Failure of the requesting authority to appear at the hearing may cause reinstatement of license to licensee.

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Yep, but we back ours up with cites.