Yea, I use the congress.org deal, but I hope our people have our backs. Because registration is not necessary, and wont make criminals stop getting guns.
I would like to be able to use NICS for personal sales though.. How pissed would you be if you sold someone you didnt know a gun, and they robbed/killed someone with it.
As stated by BunnyKid if you can find a FFL to do it. But know this, it is my understanding that it is a very involved process for the FFL.
As stated by BunnyKid if you can find a FFL to do it. But know this, it is my understanding that it is a very involved process for the FFL. They have to do paperwork inducting the gun into their inventory before making the background check and then keep records (you can't have a gun associated with your FFL un accounted for). If I am incorrect about the process of a FFL doing a background check for someone else then please correct me. On top of all that you would surly have to pay a fee.
That's why they usually charge a fee to do it. They're businesses, not charities.
Yea, but theres no reason I should have to pay 25 bucks to check someone.. Vetting the buyer is important to me, but not 25 bucks a check..
Anyone know the reason, or "reason" that FFL's have to keep a logbook?
This is part of what I would do to streamline the NICS checks. In the modern world, theres no reason why you shouldnt be able to just get online, enter someones info, and get a pass/fail. Doesnt have to be specific.
But making it that big a deal for FFL's to do it, and then they charge you for it.. Thats ridiculous.. Seems to me theres a better way. WITHOUT these stupid UBC
Well, who do you think is willing to do work for free?
FFL's have to keep a log book because the government tells them they have too if they want to be an FFL
Neither I nor nearly ANYONE on these boards can be considered "The Herd;" I am re-stating WHAT WE ALL KNOW, just in case anyone has forgotten. Semper Fi!I personally believe that there are points on which gun owners and 2nd amendment supporters have to compromise with the federal government and every other entity which wants to get involved.
I also believe we've already done that numerous times. We each have to have a background check when we purchase a firearm. Firearms dealers must be licensed by the ATF. We must buy stamps from the ATF for certain purchases. We had to live under the last AWB.
There has to be a line in the sand or else we're no better than the herd out there accepting every bit of b.s. the government decides to feed them.
WE all know that new gun control isn't going to do anything to stop criminals
WE all know that it won't make this country any safer.
WE all know that this is simply another in a long line of attacks on who we are and what we believe in at the very core of our beings.
I, for one, oppose ANY new legislation on gun control because it is simply another way to for the federal government to convince the herd that they are doing something to make things better. WE all know that it's nothing more.
Yea, but theres no reason I should have to pay 25 bucks to check someone.. Vetting the buyer is important to me, but not 25 bucks a check.. In the modern world, theres no reason why you shouldnt be able to just get online, enter someones info, and get a pass/fail. Doesnt have to be specific.
But making it that big a deal for FFL's to do it, and then they charge you for it.. Thats ridiculous.. Seems to me theres a better way. WITHOUT these stupid UBC
Yea, but theres no reason I should have to pay 25 bucks to check someone.. Vetting the buyer is important to me, but not 25 bucks a check..
Anyone know the reason, or "reason" that FFL's have to keep a logbook?
This is part of what I would do to streamline the NICS checks. In the modern world, theres no reason why you shouldnt be able to just get online, enter someones info, and get a pass/fail. Doesnt have to be specific.
But making it that big a deal for FFL's to do it, and then they charge you for it.. Thats ridiculous.. Seems to me theres a better way. WITHOUT these stupid UBC
Although what bunnykid says is true, the reasoning behind it is traceability in the minds of legislators. If they find a gun used in the crime they can take the serial and call glock for example and go down the line from manufacturer to distributor to dealer. Then the dealer can look up in the logbook the serial and the name and info of who purchased it. Then they knock on a door and ask questions. If the gun has been through private hands without an FFL though they can only follow the trail so far.
As of current however there is no way for say an LEO to check if a specific individual has a gun. They can only go from a gun to an individual, not check if an individual has a gun. Registration would change that.