There Are Far More Defensive Gun Uses Than Murders

[BehindBlueI's]

The highlighted is a statistical assertion. You're privy to data that I am not. So your assertion may well be an infallible fact. But I'm not privy to your data, and as such, it may well be wildly inaccurate. My observation while reading this thread is that an article was linked. The article, as interpreted by multiple people (you, me, others), resulted in differing opinions. But you and only you can be right with regard to opinion.

It could be, but I'm happy to share the methodology and have done so in the past. Any time someone is shot and seeks medical treatment, it's reported (or if they die, of course). I worked in the office that every singe one of those reports came through and one was of the people who investigated them. It was no big trick to track the info and put it in a spreadsheet for easy counting, calculations of percentages, etc.

I doubt that LEO's have hard data to support the opinion that them having the drop on a suspect defused a situation so it didn't escalate into the use of deadly force. I would venture to say that it happens much more often than them discharging their weapons. It is a reasonable assumption.

Some things are simply not going to have hard data. How much of any given thing isn't reported is one of those things. We can guess, but that's it. Keep in mind a large chunk of defensive gun uses aren't really good guy vs bad guy but rather bad guy vs bad guy and they have a vested interest in keeping their gun ownership and use under wraps as well as a 'don't snitch' culture.

 

[BE Mike]

It could be, but I'm happy to share the methodology and have done so in the past. Any time someone is shot and seeks medical treatment, it's reported (or if they die, of course). I worked in the office that every singe one of those reports came through and one was of the people who investigated them. It was no big trick to track the info and put it in a spreadsheet for easy counting, calculations of percentages, etc.



Some things are simply not going to have hard data. How much of any given thing isn't reported is one of those things. We can guess, but that's it. Keep in mind a large chunk of defensive gun uses aren't really good guy vs bad guy but rather bad guy vs bad guy and they have a vested interest in keeping their gun ownership and use under wraps as well as a 'don't snitch' culture.

I can only go by my limited experience. I have displayed a weapon several times and never discharged it. It swayed the other person's opinion, and prevented me having to discharge it.