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  • 4sarge

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    The Birth Certificate Issue Will Not Die

    The Birth Certificate Issue Will Not Die


    The American people may have been fooled into believing that Sen. Barack Obama possesses the constitutional qualification to be president of the United States, but the people who are convinced Obama lied to the American people about meeting the natural born qualification aren't going away. Non-believers ran a full page ad in the Washington Times this week demanding answers to the questions the media refuses to make Obama answer. The ad cites the claim of his paternal step-grandmother, Sarah Obama, that she was present for his birth in Kenya, Obama's own refusal to produce a valid, original birth certificate proving his birth in Hawaii and Indonesian school records identifying him as an Indonesian citizen with the name "Barry Soetoro".

    An online signature drive has been launched, which has already garnered signatures of nearly 40,000 Americans, is petitioning the 2008 electors to the Electoral College, Congress, the Federal Elections Commission, U.S. Supreme Court, President George W. Bush and state election authorities to enforce Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution by requiring Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen. Multiple lawsuits have been filed in state and federal courts across the country challenging Obama's qualifications under Article 2, Section 1. Every single ruling to date has dismissed the claims of the citizen petitioners on the basis that they lack standing to bring a claim. Former American Independent Party presidential candidate, Alan Keyes, and other members of his party have filed a lawsuit in California attempting to force the Secretary of State there to deny certification of Obama's electors until Obama proves he is a natural born citizen. There is a precedent in California in the past for the Secretary of State to actually remove a third party presidential candidate from the ballot on the ground that the candidate was not constitutionally qualified because he had not yet reached the age of 35 based on his official birth certificate.

    Dr. Ron Polarik, a computer graphics expert, appeared this week on Janet Folger's Faith2Action radio talk show and explained his analysis of the certificate of live birth posted on Obama's "Fight The Smears" website and FactCheck.org, which purport to prove Obama's birth in Hawaii. He concludes unequivocally that it is a forged document. He says the two separate postings of the COLB on these sites is actually a compilation of someone else's 2007 COLB and a 2008 COLB. I encourage you to visit Faith2Action's website, where you can download and listen to Polarik's analysis. Polarik is not deterred by the Hawaii Department of Health's confirmation that it has a birth record on file in Hawaii. Hawaiian law at the time allowed a parent to register a birth which may have actually taken place outside the state if the parent claimed to have resided in the state for at least one year prior to the child's birth.

    The way I've always viewed this issue is that every candidate for president of the United States should be forced to prove that he or she is at least 35 years of age and is a natural born citizen. Oddly, there is no formal requirement that a candidate for president comply with the constitutional requirements other than to make attestations to that effect. Obama himself is a stickler to such legalities. After all, he challenged the validity of the petitions filed by his four primary opponents, including a long-time state senator, the first time he ran for public office. He succeeded in having all four opponents bounced from the election ballot, allowing him to run for his first office unopposed. Obama could have put this issue behind him months ago by simply producing the original birth certificate. Why won't he? John McCain did.

    If it's not enough that Obama may have presented a forged birth certificate to fool the media and the American people into believing he was born in Hawaii, there are also questions about whether he registered for the Selective Service System when he reached the age of 18. This issue was supposedly debunked earlier this year when evidence of Obama registering for selective service back in 1980 surfaced; however, new evidence seems to suggest that Obama's supposed 1980 registration didn't make into the Selective Service System's database until this year. That's right, the document location number (DLN) indicates the record for his 1980 registration was created in 2008. A retired federal agent, J. Stephen Coffman, explained his efforts to find out Obama's SSS status in a recent e-mail to me:

    What is interesting is that when I first contacted the Selective Service about Senator Obama's registration not showing up on the "Check A Registration" section of their website (Selective Service System: Welcome) they said it was because he probably used a different name then Barack H. Obama or a different Social Security Number or date of birth. The registration that they evenually sent me shows the name Barack H. Obama and the same date of birth that I used. So that does not make any sense as to why his registration was not online prior to September of this year. You have to have the Social Security Number to use that function. It would be a privacy issue to release it.

    Initially, I was not given a copy of his registration card because of claimed privacy issues. I pointed out that his name and date of birth was in the public domain. I also stated that if they could not provide me with a copy of the form, then my FOIA should be considered to include all correspondence (including, but not limited to emails) sent or received by the Selective Service. Seems they did not want to give me the emails. So they gave me the form.

    I am not against the Selective Service. I recently re-enlisted in the Reserves (I have over 26 years Active and Reserve service). So I sent my concerns about the registration form to the Selective Service. They declined to comment. So after a few weeks, I forwarded it to Debbie.

    Anyone can request the same document from Selective Service by sending a FOIA. There should not be any delay as they have it readily available - especially with the Document Locator Number.
    Apparently, the database for the Selective Service System is maintained in Chicago, leading some to speculate that a friend of Obama's accessed the system unlawfully to correct the potential embarrassment, not to mention what would be his own criminal law violation in failing to register, if that proved to be the case. I registered for the Selective Service System when I turned 18 not too long after Obama purportedly registered. I was also appointed as a member of my local Selective Service System board when I was only 18. A year ago I recounted a story about how that came about after a chance meeting with an Illinois power broker, William Cellini, in my state senator's office:

    I was interning in a local state senator's office in 1981 when Mr. Cellini stopped by to visit the state senator. After the senator and Mr. Cellini visited for awhile, I was invited into the senator's office and asked if I wanted to be a Selective Service Board member. "Am I old enough," I asked. With that, at the age of 18, I was appointed a member of the local Selective Service Board in my area when it was reconstituted after being abolished many years earlier. It later made a headline in the Charleston Times-Courier when a reporter called me up and asked how I got appointed to the Board and I told the reporter exactly how it happened. Red-faced, I called up Mr. Cellini and apologized for the headline. He told me it wasn't a problem and not to worry about it. Later, I figured out it was exactly the kind of publicity he liked getting.
    The U.S. Attorney's Office in Chicago just recently indicted Cellini in its ongoing investigation of corruption within Illinois state government. Cellini is accused of mail fraud in what federal prosecutors claim was a conspiracy to extort money from state pension fund managers to benefit Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Do I believe it's possible that someone could have illegally post-registered Obama? You bet I do. I still don't have a clue after all these years why the hell Bill Cellini had anything to do with who was appointed to local Selective Service Registration boards in Illinois. If someone solves that mystery, please share it with me.

    ....... and the Obama Fable marches along :D
     

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    It seems that some (?) "powers that be" (?) have use for Obama and don't want the truth to come out. Why are so many people hiding or blocking the truth? In fact, what is the truth? Will we ever know? (before it's too late)
     

    jedi

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    You will only know the truth with the ONSF comes breaking down your door in the middle of the night and takes you and your family away.

    ONSF = Obama National Security Force
     

    colt45er

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    there are two things with this situation. The first is that it is in question. The main organizaiton that "cleared' the birt certificate he gave a origional was based out of Chicago and had recieved funding from Obama in the past!

    Also there was a lawsuit but a lifetime Democrate against Obama to prove it and he refused. that democrate was the former attourney General of Pennselvania.

    THe second side of this issue we are looking at is why would any one democrate or not want a president that hides so much from them. And I am not talking about security or military stuff.

    I know know about all of you, but I was taught if you don't have anything to hide...dont
     

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    there are two things with this situation. The first is that it is in question. The main organizaiton that "cleared' the birt certificate he gave a origional was based out of Chicago and had recieved funding from Obama in the past!

    Also there was a lawsuit but a lifetime Democrate against Obama to prove it and he refused. that democrate was the former attourney General of Pennselvania.

    THe second side of this issue we are looking at is why would any one democrate or not want a president that hides so much from them. And I am not talking about security or military stuff.

    I know know about all of you, but I was taught if you don't have anything to hide...dont

    Especially if it's supposed to be public knowledge - such as: for a public official. Those that are keeping their mouths shut are getting something in return. (Personal benefit vs. security of the country.)
     

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    You will only know the truth with the ONSF comes breaking down your door in the middle of the night and takes you and your family away.

    ONSF = Obama National Security Force

    Only my family would be walking out that door....
     

    4sarge

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    Kenyan Ambassador Admits Obama's Birth In Kenya?

    Kenyan Ambassador Admits Obama's Birth In Kenya?


    Detroit radio talk show host Mark Fellhauer and his colleagues on WFIR's "Mike In The Morning" believe they got Kenyan Ambassador to the U.S. Peter Ogego to matter-of-factly admit to Barack Obama's birth in Kenya as his paternal step-grandmother Sarah Obama has claimed. Ogego tells them that plans are underway to mark Obama's birthplace in Kenya. You can listen to their light-hearted interview with the Ambassador by clicking here. After listening to the complete interview, I'm not thoroughly convinced that Ogego fully understood the drift of the suggestive question by Fellhauer, but Fellhauer sees it differently.

    Hat tip to Debbie Schlussel.
     
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