NFA Timelines Thread

[actaeon277]

Oh yea, I got off the phone with Greg (Porter county) not long ago. I've been in contact with everyone under the sun but nothing helps. I even filled out the VAF form and had a UPIN generated haha, FBI said if I did they'd expedite things and update me every step of every stage. Of course I haven't heard anything.

I could be wrong, but I think that works with NICS and the FBI.
NFA is the ATF.

 

[GunsCarsPlanes]

I could be wrong, but I think that works with NICS and the FBI.
NFA is the ATF.

There is a correspondence group within the ATF who are supposed to be dedicated to FBI NICS issues.

Application sent by the local gun store off to the ATF. ATF lets it sit and at the very end of the wait they fire off a background check request with the FBI. The background check is what they call NICS. FBI will give a pending/proceed/deny or whatever and that determination is sent back to the ATF, until that FBI NICS info comes back everyone at the ATF is just sitting around.

There are emails you can use to contact various different groups:
*FBI
*ATF
*A group within the ATF who is "supposed" to handle the NICS liaison matters from the ATF's side
*Another group, similar to above but from the FBI side

There are also less public emails for individual ATF approvers, efax machines and general inquiry addresses. The collective hive mind over at Reddit has compiled some nifty data.

 

[DDadams]

Two came back today via @Aszerigan

Both filed I believe June 18th via Eform form 4

Otter Creek Labs Polonium
Liberty Precision Machine Anthem S

170 days if I'm right on the June 18th date.

Emails sent just 6 minutes apart but Andrew let me know before I even saw the emails. I'd been checking every day this last week or so as I never check my email but had a feeling they were coming soon maybe based on my last one which was 184 days.

 

[STFU]

Two came back today via @Aszerigan

Both filed I believe June 18th via Eform form 4

Otter Creek Labs Polonium
Liberty Precision Machine Anthem S

170 days if I'm right on the June 18th date.

Emails sent just 6 minutes apart but Andrew let me know before I even saw the emails. I'd been checking every day this last week or so as I never check my email but had a feeling they were coming soon maybe based on my last one which was 184 days.

Were these "Individual" or "Trust?"

 

[DDadams]

Were these "Individual" or "Trust?"

Individual

 

[Titanium700]

And here I am at 209 days…

 

[DDadams]

And here I am at 209 days…

Trust or individual?

 

[Titanium700]

Individual

 

[Andyland]

Those lead times are from the ATF web site, and are supposed to be the average.
That being said, they lowered the form 4 trust average by 5 days, to 236, as my transfer went passed 300 days.
I am at 330 now. They had the background check from the FBI more than 3 months ago, they told me so.
I have never had a speeding ticket.
They just aren't processing it.

Filed eform Trust MG 12/13/2022
They had the FBI report at 9 months.
Approved 12/01/2023
353 days
ATF web site claimed Eform/Trust average was 225 days.
So they can't do math, or the official average is made up, or they are doing silencers and holding off as long as possible on MG transfers?

 

[edwea]

Filed eform Trust MG 12/13/2022
They had the FBI report at 9 months.
Approved 12/01/2023
353 days
ATF web site claimed Eform/Trust average was 225 days.
So they can't do math, or the official average is made up, or they are doing silencers and holding off as long as possible on MG transfers?

I think they periodically push through a bunch of <100 day approvals to get the average down.

 

[Titanium700]

Well I know it ain’t mine they be pushing through.
Day 211

 

[ACC]

Two suppressors approved yesterday. Both purchased through Silencer Shop and e-filed on a trust.

Surefire RC2 filed 6/13/23
SiCo Omega 9K filed 8/3/23

Pretty pleased with how quickly they are getting these processed.

 

[DDadams]

Someone on reddit had a SIX DAY approval on a SS kiosk form 4.

That HAS to be an all time record for anyone, I'd think?

 

[Creedmoor]

Filed eform Trust MG 12/13/2022
They had the FBI report at 9 months.
Approved 12/01/2023
353 days
ATF web site claimed Eform/Trust average was 225 days.
So they can't do math, or the official average is made up, or they are doing silencers and holding off as long as possible on MG transfers?

Last month we had a Form 4 on a Trust for a can take 356 days.

 

[GunsCarsPlanes]

Finally approved @ 371 days

Dec 8th 2022 --> Dec 13th 2023
2x eform4
electronic prints
filed as individual

 

[Jaybird1980]

Finally approved

Took right at 9 months

 

[GunsCarsPlanes]

Finally approved

Took right at 9 months

jeepers man, speedy gonzalez blink of an eye over here.

 

[Jaybird1980]

jeepers man, speedy gonzalez blink of an eye over here.

 

[STFU]

A solid update here:

 

[Titanium700]

Approved.

Individual
TBAC 338 ultra
E-form 4 silencer shop kiosk
Filed - pending status May 11, 2023
Approved - Jan 16, 2024
250 days.

Bout time.