Love story of the Savage Muzzleloader! What do you have?

[M2A2]

I have a Savage ML10.. I cant say enough good things about this weapon. It's a bone crusher. It's a powerful, accurate,bad boy. It shoot smokeless powder. Randy wakeman has a outstanding web site all about this rifle.The key to this gun is the bullet! I shoot the Barnes orignal 300 gr 45-70 bullet.This is not a wimpy pistol bullet. The trigger on the rifle is OUTSTANDING! accutrigger. Very nice.Heres the bullet drop:
25 to 100 yards dead on
150 yards 4" low
220 yards 9 " low
I am shooting barnes orignal .458 spitzer soft points and 5744 powder mmp sabots 50x458 orange.I think this is my 4 th seasons with this gun. I carry it durning shotgun as well. Anything else I feel undergunned..

 

[singlesix]

For those that want one ... get them soon. Savage is stopping production of this gun.

 

[Hoosierdood]

Wow! And to think, I just got an email today on the subject of Savage muzzleloaders and using smokeless powder. A friend forwarded it to me and it had pictures of one that blew up because the person used smokeless powder in it. (my guess is they used the same amount of smokeless powder as they would Pyrodex)

Either way, most muzzleloaders dont recommend smokeless powder. In fact, Savage is the only one that I know of who does. I'm not sure I would want to try it.

 

[singlestacksig]

Wow! And to think, I just got an email today on the subject of Savage muzzleloaders and using smokeless powder. A friend forwarded it to me and it had pictures of one that blew up because the person used smokeless powder in it. (my guess is they used the same amount of smokeless powder as they would Pyrodex)

Either way, most muzzleloaders dont recommend smokeless powder. In fact, Savage is the only one that I know of who does. I'm not sure I would want to try it.

How to Blow Up a Savage 10ML-II


there have only been 3 cases of the Savage 10-ML going KBoom! and 2 of them were the same guy, a guy who used to work for Savage and had a bad falling out...

I think savage might be dropping it because of poor sales.. it is several hundred dollars more than other ML guns & some stores don't want to carry it because they think it still has to be transfered via FFL..

 

[M2A2]

You know savage never really pushed this mzzle loader... Its HEAVY DUTY RIFLE.I saw that gore once before.. Follow directions..keep your hand.

 

[sp3worker]

Mine was a POS. I like Savages and still have a few, but my 10-ML was all over the place. Didn't matter if it was smokeless, pyrodex or triple 7 pellets it just wouldn't group consistantly. Sold it and bought a TC Triumph, I'm much happier with it.

 

[singlestacksig]

Mine was a POS. I like Savages and still have a few, but my 10-ML was all over the place. Didn't matter if it was smokeless, pyrodex or triple 7 pellets it just wouldn't group consistantly. Sold it and bought a TC Triumph, I'm much happier with it.

what sabots did you use? Use the wrong ones and you won't keep it on paper..
use the right ones and it is a great gun..
as far as I know Barnes is the only bullet maker shipping MMP sabots with the bullets..
I just buy handgun bullets & sabots directly from MMP..

 

[CountryBoy19]

Mine was a POS. I like Savages and still have a few, but my 10-ML was all over the place. Didn't matter if it was smokeless, pyrodex or triple 7 pellets it just wouldn't group consistantly. Sold it and bought a TC Triumph, I'm much happier with it.

I've heard that as well. They seem to be hit or miss on being tack-drivers or scatterguns.

The price tag doesn't help them much either.

 

[sp3worker]

what sabots did you use? Use the wrong ones and you won't keep it on paper..
use the right ones and it is a great gun..
as far as I know Barnes is the only bullet maker shipping MMP sabots with the bullets..
I just buy handgun bullets & sabots directly from MMP..

I tried Hornady 250gr. XTP and SST, 300gr. SST's and the sabots that came with the gun. I varied my loads quite a bit, it seemed that if I went below what the load recomendations were the accuracy improved some. About the best I could do was 4"-5" groups at 100yds though. Out of the box with two Triple 7 pellets and 250gr TC Shockwaves I get 1 1/2" groups no problem with my Triumph.

 

[bothehunter]

i just got one this year, and i love it! where did u hear they are going to stop production? just curious

 

[bothehunter]

sorry to hear that! first five shots out of mine with 40gr 5744 and 300gr xtp at 50yrds cut one hole with 4 out 5!

 

[singlesix]

For those that want one ... get them soon. Savage is stopping production of this gun.

Ahhggrrr ... Trusted someone and all he has is ... he heard from "someone". So my apologies for spreading unsupported conjecture.

 

[M2A2]

This gun is funny even though I shoot smokeless powder from it. It likes a clean barrel.It's a real tack driver! With a lot of power.