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Knife Fighting Training
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Craig Douglas is coming to Bloomington in September...
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Steve Tarani is in Lebanon usually once or more a year. I'm sure someone will be along with that info soon.
EWO (Indiana) – ShivWorks
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Steve Tarani is in Lebanon usually once or more a year. I'm sure someone will be along with that info soon.
ColdSteel223
Sharpshooter
Tarani and the Boone Co Sheriff's office have a couple of TENATIVE dates. Last year Covid canceled everything at the Sheriff's office. I have not heard any news from them lately.Craig Douglas is coming to Bloomington in September...
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Steve Tarani is in Lebanon usually once or more a year. I'm sure someone will be along with that info soon.
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https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/upcoming-classes
In addition to the ones above. These are not knife dueling classes but rather the practical use of knife in self defense situation classes. Not sure which you are looking for.
In addition to the ones above. These are not knife dueling classes but rather the practical use of knife in self defense situation classes. Not sure which you are looking for.
If they have a knife, run.
If you have a knife and they have nothing, run or go to prison.
If you have a knife and they have a gun, run and get behind cover as you do.
If you are in close quarters and can't run and can access your blade and can justify using it, stab them until they break contact. Then run.
There. Knife training.
Free. You are welcome.
If you have a knife and they have nothing, run or go to prison.
If you have a knife and they have a gun, run and get behind cover as you do.
If you are in close quarters and can't run and can access your blade and can justify using it, stab them until they break contact. Then run.
There. Knife training.
Free. You are welcome.
There used to be Renott in Ohio but I cannot confirm or deny they still exist.
I'd look for a Systema Russian martial art studio or Krav Maga Israeli martial arts studio. Some BJJ classes have weapons training but are usually oriented toward grappling / mma.
I'd look for a Systema Russian martial art studio or Krav Maga Israeli martial arts studio. Some BJJ classes have weapons training but are usually oriented toward grappling / mma.
Yes. As fast as possible. If all I had was a knife. I will likely have a 44 magnum on me, so the knife is just for boxes and such.
That won't be very fast when you're trying to drag little kids along. Sometimes you just have to stand and fight. And I don't recommend a .44 magnum if you're in a crowded area... remember the rules about knowing what's behind your target? If you'd be justified using a pistol you'd be equally justified with a knife or a blackjack, and depending on circumstances those may be better options. I like blackjacks myself. Just be sure you can articulate why you were justified and the reasoning behind the choices you made, like doing everything you could to avoid hurting some random innocent person.
First, why would I be walking in a bad area with little kids? Avoidance is the first rule. Second, I appreciate your recommendation about not carrying a 44 magnum. I can't imagine being confronted by a mugger in a crowded area since they tend to avoid committing crimes in front of crowds. If I were you, I would not carry a .44 since you don't recommend it. I, on the other hand, recommend it highly, which is why I carry one. Of course, it can also be loaded with .44 Special, so that gives me even more options. And I think blackjacks are awesome as well. I just think most "knife training" focuses on fighting other people armed with knives and assumes that you will see the blade before you feel it, which would a sure sign you are dealing with an amateur rather than a trained individual. I would encourage the OP to learn to access his gun for CQB as needed and forget about the "West Side Story" fantasy about "knife fighting."
Where have you taken knife fighting classes? Just curious?
I briefly studied some "knife fighting" with Jimmy Tacosa (escrima) when he was in Chicago. I had some experience in FMA prior to this time. I have studied knife techniques in American Kenpo. I have studied knife techniques in WWII Combatives. I hold black belts in various arts (Taekwondo, Shito-ryu Karate), and have various levels attained in Aikido and Kyokushinkai karate, and also briefly studied Japanese swordsmanship with Tetsuzan Kuroda, who is likely the finest practitioner of Japanese swordsmanship in existence. (If he is holding a "knife," especially of the long variety, you should definitely run.) In all, I devoted approximately 30 years of serious study to traditional and modern close, interpersonal, armed and unarmed conflict resolution. During and since then, I have devoted my time to understanding the use of a firearm in close quarters and how to integrate the firearm in realistic conflict. That study has lasted about 20 years. I also have worked as a police officer, a Secret Service Agent, and am currently a Federal Agent with another agency. I am currently a firearms instructor and also "assist" with Defensive Tactics. I guess you would say I am a beginner. I hope this answers your question.Where have you taken knife fighting classes? Just curious?
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I would definitely recommend Craig Douglas, BTW!
First, bad people don't limit themselves to bad areas. They can be anywhere, and they aren't necessarily known for making wise decisions, especially after maybe a 36 hour meth bender.
Second, go ahead and use the 44 in a crowded area with people all around. Don't worry about over-penetrating the skinny tweaker and maybe killing someone behind him as well.
Third, I'll agree there's a difference between knife dueling and fighting with a knife. Knife duels don't really happen in the real world. But the other guy might have a piece of rebar, or a tire thumper, or a stun gun, or brass knuckles, or any number of things and be on you quick as ****. I'm not against cutting some dude off me if I need to.
Also, there have been times where I've not been able to carry a firearm on my person due to where I was going and how I had to dress, but I could get away with a knife. Is it ideal? No. But sometimes it's the best I can do. And with that in mind, a little training can't hurt.
1. Agreed bad people can attack you in crowded areas, but it is rare.
2. In crowded areas, I use Specials. Solves that problem.
3. Most knife classes are knife dueling classes. Low practicality. Lots of fun, though.
4. I always have a gun. Sorry some aren't able.
ColdSteel223
Sharpshooter
Steve Tarani’s Advanced Edged Weapons/ Karambit @ Boone County Sheriff's Office
December 4-5, 2021
Price $275
Learn the critical skills for using a fixed or folding blade in self-defense. What’s the best knife for everyday personal carry? What’s the difference in performance between serrated and non-serrated edges? What is blade geometry and which features should you look for in a fixed or folding knife?
Your fixed, folding or curved blade is useless to you in any self-defense situation unless you can readily access it, deploy it and be ready to fight for your life. In this course, you will be introduced to realistic defensive and rapid deployment of both folding and fixed blades. You will be trained in what to do if you have nothing in your hands and you were attacked by one or more assailants wielding an edged weapon.
You will also be introduced to the curve blade – how it is used, its advantages over a straight edge and what makes the curved blade such a unique defensive tool employed at conversational ranges. There is no prerequisite for this course. Instruction includes: Pros and cons of fixed/ folding/ straight/ curved blades, carry, access, rapid deployment, edged weapon handling and unarmed defense against edged weapons, critical dynamics of personal security, the truth about disarming, what are and how to defend against the seven lethal strike points of the body.
Steve's biography and more information about him can be found at https://stevetarani.com/ .
To register for one of Steve Tarani's courses, please go to https://fs17.formsite.com/mbeard/tarani/index.html.
December 4-5, 2021
Price $275
Learn the critical skills for using a fixed or folding blade in self-defense. What’s the best knife for everyday personal carry? What’s the difference in performance between serrated and non-serrated edges? What is blade geometry and which features should you look for in a fixed or folding knife?
Your fixed, folding or curved blade is useless to you in any self-defense situation unless you can readily access it, deploy it and be ready to fight for your life. In this course, you will be introduced to realistic defensive and rapid deployment of both folding and fixed blades. You will be trained in what to do if you have nothing in your hands and you were attacked by one or more assailants wielding an edged weapon.
You will also be introduced to the curve blade – how it is used, its advantages over a straight edge and what makes the curved blade such a unique defensive tool employed at conversational ranges. There is no prerequisite for this course. Instruction includes: Pros and cons of fixed/ folding/ straight/ curved blades, carry, access, rapid deployment, edged weapon handling and unarmed defense against edged weapons, critical dynamics of personal security, the truth about disarming, what are and how to defend against the seven lethal strike points of the body.
Steve's biography and more information about him can be found at https://stevetarani.com/ .
To register for one of Steve Tarani's courses, please go to https://fs17.formsite.com/mbeard/tarani/index.html.
A "class' isn't going to do much for you honestly; Craig douglas' ECQC not withstanding and ECQC isn't strictly knifework. Knife fighting as a rule is a good way to lose at least a digit... assuming that you win.
I second the idea of taking up systema, maybe MMA... perhaps even something like Sambo, BJJ, or just wrestling. You can take those basics and layer a class over them. With that base you'll get a LOT from either ECQC, or some of Tim Kennedys classes.
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I second the idea of taking up systema, maybe MMA... perhaps even something like Sambo, BJJ, or just wrestling. You can take those basics and layer a class over them. With that base you'll get a LOT from either ECQC, or some of Tim Kennedys classes.
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IndyBeerman
Was a real life Beerman.....
I live by a simple rule......
Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
I do not have the mobility, nor the agility that I had in my 30's. heck not even in my 40's because of health issues.
So I'm not capable a dancing around all West Side Story, Jets and Sharks style, nor am I gonna do my Paul Hogan
Crocodile Dundee impersonation because I might have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
I do not have the mobility, nor the agility that I had in my 30's. heck not even in my 40's because of health issues.
So I'm not capable a dancing around all West Side Story, Jets and Sharks style, nor am I gonna do my Paul Hogan
Crocodile Dundee impersonation because I might have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Tae Kwon Do, BJJ, Karate, Silat, June fan kune do. I've trained with all the recommended ingo firearms trainers. I'm lost on Vanguards back and forth on training. I've trained with some of the best handgun shooters in the united states. Complimenting your firearms training with edged weapons weakens me how?
IndyBeerman
Was a real life Beerman.....
I don't think I've seen anyone say that knife training weakens anyone.
Age and health is a determining factor in one's ability to fight off a attack with a edged weapon.
As you get older, mobility and health issues factor in, you'll realize that is not a option and can be over powered easily.
Before my health issues when I was 54, there would have been no thought about this. I played basketball 3-4 times a week, and with my job of 31 years of hauling beer I was more fit than a lot of 25 year olds.
Today that is not a option for myself and many men who are out of their youth, I'll utilize the CQC firearm exercises I have done.
