ATFE Smoking Gun Memo?

[Kirk Freeman]

ATFE internal memorandum just released showing that ATFE asked to trace firearms that have NOT surfaced at crime scenes as of yet.

Holy Semiautomatic Rifle, Batman. The Feds flippin' had a list!

Of Arms and the Law: Fast and Furious -- a smoking gun?

 

[rgrimm01]

Oops. One thing to suspect, another to know... I doubt this gets any traction.

 

[Lex Concord]

ATFE internal memorandum just released showing that ATFE asked to trace firearms that have NOT surfaced at crime scenes as of yet.

Holy Semiautomatic Rifle, Batman. The Feds flippin' had a list!

Of Arms and the Law: Fast and Furious -- a smoking gun?

Would this not indicate a conspiracy?

We all no that no member of our government past or present would ever be involved in a conspiracy.

Nothing to see here...move along.

 

[netsecurity]

ATFE internal memorandum just released showing that ATFE asked to trace firearms that have NOT surfaced at crime scenes as of yet.

Holy Semiautomatic Rifle, Batman. The Feds flippin' had a list!

Of Arms and the Law: Fast and Furious -- a smoking gun?

He asked him to trace them using unnecessary paperwork, instead of using their database, because the supervisor didn't want anyone else in the BATFE, or government agencies, to know what they were doing. Databases keep track of who accesses them.

That's what I think he's saying.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

Kirk.

Are you wearing a different hat today?

It looks good on you!


This seems to be pretty dang signifigant. I wonder if it will just up and vanish without any attention.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yes?

Are you wearing a different hat today?

Only wear hats when shooting.

No need for tinfoil, that's the real McCoy not some goofy Alex Jones nonsense.

 

[DadOfFour]

Ok, somebody help me out here. How is this a smoking gun? I don't see it?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It proves beyond any doubt that Fast & Furious was done for a political goal--advancing gun regulation.

 

[jedi]

It proves beyond any doubt that Fast & Furious was done for a political goal--advancing gun regulation.

no it does not since ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, heck even Yahoo! News are not talking about it.

In fact no one but you cares about it Kirk. So please stop giving us facts on this F&F. Anyone who can do anything about it does not care and won't raise a finger to punish those that did. And even in the rare chance that I am wrong not to worry Our Pres will just pardon them anyways.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

no it does not since ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, heck even Yahoo! News are not talking about it.

In fact no one but you cares about it Kirk. So please stop giving us facts on this F&F. Anyone who can do anything about it does not care and won't raise a finger to punish those that did. And even in the rare chance that I am wrong not to worry Our Pres will just pardon them anyways.

Not sure how you can say this even with your tongue firmly in your cheek. Darryl Issa in the House and Charles Grassley in the Senate have been trying to bring this out and, while the MSM (including FOXNEWS) don't seem to be covering it much, the House Contempt vote has caused some coverage. Don't know if the President could get away with pardoning his buddy the AG, if he's found guilty in a court; the political price (and even the personal price) might be too much even if he did it as an Eleventh Hour pardon before leaving office.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Treason writ large.

 

[jedi]

Not sure how you can say this even with your tongue firmly in your cheek.

meh... Kirk knows I have been following this just as much as him and sad to say I don't see thing (the whole F&F) going anywhere anytime soon.

It is GREATER than watergate but alas I just don't see anyone getting punished for it.

 

[DadOfFour]

It proves beyond any doubt that Fast & Furious was done for a political goal--advancing gun regulation.

How so? Look, I'm not saying F&F WASN'T done for a political goal, but the presence of a list of guns doesn't prove that. Since the "plan" was to track these guns after the straw purchases, wouldn't it make sense that they would have a list in order to track them?

Just asking a devil's advocate kinda question here.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Look again at the last paragraph of the second to last page.

They were running traces on guns that had not been recovered in order to bolster Hillary Clinton's and others' 90% claim in order to expand 3310 and AWB II.

The gun tracking to bust drug kingpins cover story just came apart like a cardboard suitcase in the rain.