A Possible Motive In The Arizona Shooting

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  • Compatriot G

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    While I have been reading and listening to all of the news about the shooting of Rep. Giffords, a thought occurred to me.

    I remember reading that Rep. Giffords was Jewish and the first Jew elected to Congress from Arizona.

    I also saw that the shooter listed Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto has favorite books of his. He also had the Youtube video where he was ranting about the Fed and Fiat currency.

    Of course, we all know Hitler's thoughts on Jews. Communists were also Antisemitic. Then, I remembered some of the Federal Reserve rants I have read on the Internet. Many of the conspiracy theorists connect the Fed with the Rothschild family. The Rothschilds are German-Jews that are also big international bankers.

    I wonder if this shooting was actually based upon Antisemitism and not comments by Mrs. Palin or Rush?
     

    sparky241

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    now thats something to think about. but right now i really feel like he did it because he thought she was stupid.
     

    RichardR

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    Communists were also Antisemitic.

    Stalin's letter: “Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States" dated January 12, 1931 indicated his official position of the Soviet Union:

    In answer to your inquiry: National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism. Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism. In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_and_Joseph_Stalin#cite_note-5
     

    techres

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    Shooter = Nutjob

    All else is flavors of nut.

    Both parties are arguing about flavors & blame to gain/maintain position.

    But in the end, shooter = nutjob.
     

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    I agree the shooter is a nutjob. However, it still makes me wonder if some of the things he read, contributed to his nuttiness.

    Here is something I found on Wiki about Soviet Antisemitism:

    Since antisemitism was associated with Nazi Germany and was officially condemned by the Soviet system, the Soviet Union and their satellite communist states used the cover-term "anti-Zionism" for their antisemitic policies.

    Search on French Connection ... you will come across some zionist stuff ... makes you wonder for sure ...
     

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    It was a sad situation. I fear the anti gun fanatics rallying behind like her like Brady though. I can see it now, people will say this is a reason to ban guns! I believe this is the reason we should carry them.
     

    Stschil

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    It was a sad situation. I fear the anti gun fanatics rallying behind like her like Brady though. I can see it now, people will say this is a reason to ban guns! I believe this is the reason we should carry them.

    The letters are already in the mail. My GF had this forwarded to her yesterday.

    http://www.bradynetwork.org/site/MessageViewer/?em_id=42821.0&dlv_id=47142&pgwrap=n

    This is a shameless capitalization on this tragedy by the Brady campiagn, yet it surprises me not.
     

    Doug

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    Hmmm...let's see.

    He was reading
    Mein Kampf, which is Hitler's book about national SOCIALISM.

    And, he was reading
    The Communist Manifesto, which is Marx's book about communist SOCIALISM.

    Barack Obama and the democrats have moved America closer to SOCIALISM than any other administration in our history.

    So, yeah, it must be Sarah Palin's and Rush Limbaugh's fault.
     

    JetGirl

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    Get your tinfoil out because here is a new theory:
    Her Youtube account is subscribed to only 2 people. 1 is another representative, the other is the alleged shooter (no one convicted yet, so let's not label suspects).

    Youtube video of relationship to shooter
    :dunno:

    Although I do find the YouTube connection VERY odd, the rest of what that guy says makes him sound like a loony.
     

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    The letters are already in the mail. My GF had this forwarded to her yesterday.

    http://www.bradynetwork.org/site/MessageViewer/?em_id=42821.0&dlv_id=47142&pgwrap=n

    This is a shameless capitalization on this tragedy by the Brady campiagn, yet it surprises me not.
    Paul's message starts out on the theme that they want to help keep guns away from "disturbed" people. OK, not too controversial. Then he delivers punchline "... help defeat the gun extremists who want to arm everyone in every place and every situation."

    "Extremist!" Who would that be?
     

    EdC

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    One expert reached the conclusions that Loughner is a "Textbook Paranoid Schizophrenic" It's an interesting article. She even explains how that diagnosis can be made without a personal interview-what he says and how he acts is so "textbook". She goes on to say that by definition, paranoid schizophrenics do not have "reasons" for anything they do. See link below.

    Loughner a "textbook" case paranoid schizophrenic - Jared Loughner - Salon.com
     

    dross

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    One expert reached the conclusions that Loughner is a "Textbook Paranoid Schizophrenic" It's an interesting article. She even explains how that diagnosis can be made without a personal interview-what he says and how he acts is so "textbook". She goes on to say that by definition, paranoid schizophrenics do not have "reasons" for anything they do. See link below.

    Loughner a "textbook" case paranoid schizophrenic - Jared Loughner - Salon.com

    Ah, but was he always a paranoid schizophrenic, or did the bitter political climate perpetuated by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh turn him in to one?
     

    Doug

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    Ah, but was he always a paranoid schizophrenic, or did the bitter political climate perpetuated by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh turn him in to one?

    No, the SOCIALIST books he was reading made him hate the congresswoman because she wasn't SOCIALIST enough.
    This killing is clearly tied to SOCIALISM!
     
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