The OP and brother need traing in not starting that they can't back up. And not inciting a forum mob action cuz all it takes around here sometimes is for someone to light a match and it's on.Yes I said that based solely on the OP's first post. After finding out that the post was full of fail and that both the brother and the OP lied about the whole encounter I don't think the officer needs more training, but rather the OP and his brother do.