2024 Legislative Session Thread

[KellyinAvon]

How many LCD monitors are there? lol

1 in 130, one in the area outside that has the couch you can’t get out of.

 

[BigMoose]

1 in 130, one in the area outside that has the couch you can’t get out of.

I need to visit the statehouse again. I haven't been since I was an elementary school kid..

And we got to mess with all the buttons/switches in the senate chamber.. entertaining if your a kid.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I need to visit the statehouse again. I haven't been since I was an elementary school kid..

And we got to mess with all the buttons/switches in the senate chamber.. entertaining if your a kid.

Buttons and switches? That sounds fun for an adult too!

I remember being there when I was a senior in high school. They were going through first reading, I think it was in the house. I thought the house speaker was really rude banging the gavel after the guy would get like one sentence into the bill. now I understand why they do it that way.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Two pro-2A bills passed out of their assigned committees in the Indiana Senate this week and are now on their way to the Senate floor for a vote. Both bills have already passed in the House, so they're now just a couple of steps away from landing on the governor's desk to become law. ⁷

The two bills are:

HB 1084: Privacy of firearms transactions (prohibits use of credit card codes for gun store purchases). This is a very important bill, because several credit card companies and banks have openly discriminated against gun-related businesses. Using "credit card codes" to identify transactions at gun stores can greatly facilitate that type of discrimination - and HB 1084 would prohibit the use of those codes in Indiana, as well as prohibit the development of any list (or database) of gun purchasers or firearms in Indiana.

HB 1235: Prohibited causes of actions concerning firearms. This bill would require dismissal of the City of Gary's lawsuit against the gun industry and require any such lawsuit in the future to be filed only by the State. This ridiculous lawsuit, which has been pending for over TWENTY YEARS, seeks to blame the gun industry for Gary's problems with "gun violence." HB 1235 would not only require dismissal of this baseless litigation, it would prevent the filing of similar frivolous lawsuits by local governments in Indiana in the future.

I testified in favor of both bills in the Senate committee hearings (as I did in the House) as did KellyinAvon. Thanks to several other devoted members of The 2A Project who showed up this week to support us!

Please contact your state senator and respectfully ask him or her to support both HB 1084 and HB 1235 on the floor of the Senate! If you are unsure of who your senator is, you can find out and get contact information here: https://iga.in.gov/information/find-legislators.

Thank you!

Thank you to @GuyRelford @KellyinAvon @Bollorollo and all the other INGO'ers who have made this their work and shown up to push these bills through.

Your patience and tolerance to put up with Fady and the rest is impressive.

 

[BigMoose]

Buttons and switches? That sounds fun for an adult too!

I remember being there when I was a senior in high school. They were going through first reading, I think it was in the house. I thought the house speaker was really rude banging the gavel after the guy would get like one sentence into the bill. now I understand why they do it that way.

We went during the summer, when nothin was going on. I sorta remember they let the whole class sit in all the seats and use the voting buttons, then we played with the switches on the back wall of the senate chamber. I don't remember going to the house chamber.

From memory, the Senate chamber hasn't changed in YEARS.

 

[KellyinAvon]

We went during the summer, when nothin was going on. I sorta remember they let the whole class sit in all the seats and use the voting buttons, then we played with the switches on the back wall of the senate chamber. I don't remember going to the house chamber.

From memory, the Senate chamber hasn't changed in YEARS.

Senate chambers are SWEET!

 

[JAL]

You guys realize that Senator Pol is also the Gary City attorney, right?

I didn't know that until watching the Committee Hearing debate during which he mentioned his connection to the Gary lawsuit. It was a fleeting remark.

 

[JAL]

HB 1143 on Law Enforcement Agency firearm disposal made it through 2nd Reading LATE this afternoon with no amendments from the floor.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I just got a "we're now in the 4th quarter" update cranked out for the ISRPA. I drafted it in Word, I looked down and I was passing 600 words so the version that goes out to the ISRPA might be edited a bit. I got wound-up going through what happened at the Statehouse THIS WEEK!

We are still in a fight to get HB 1235 (kills Gary v Glock) across the finish line. We'll need to mass the Pro-2A Forces a few more times before it's all said and done this year.

 

[JAL]

I just got a "we're now in the 4th quarter" update cranked out for the ISRPA. I drafted it in Word, I looked down and I was passing 600 words so the version that goes out to the ISRPA might be edited a bit. I got wound-up going through what happened at the Statehouse THIS WEEK!

We are still in a fight to get HB 1235 (kills Gary v Glock) across the finish line. We'll need to mass the Pro-2A Forces a few more times before it's all said and done this year.

Does it have to do with the ruckus raised by Sue Glick and Liz Brown during its debate before the Senate Committee vote? The Dem votes against it were expected. Liz Brown voted Yes on the two poison pill amendments.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Does it have to do with the ruckus raised by Sue Glick and Liz Brown during its debate before the Senate Committee vote? The Dem votes against it were expected. Liz Brown voted Yes on the two poison pill amendments.

Lizzo seems to be all-in on suing the Koreans to get some bucks for Fort Wayne. She's proven herself to be anti-2A and now anti-gun owner. I guess she figures there aren't that many Senate district voters in those 400K 4473s.

She's afraid HB 1235 will derail suing Hyundai/Kia. Old lady Glick was one of the other turncoats on ConC. Emails and phone calls will be needed.

 

[BigMoose]

I think i remember it being said HB 1084 will likely face a second reading amendment as well. To do with the attorney general wording @KellyinAvon

next full senate session is Monday, but no agenda has been posted for it yet.

 

[loudgroove]

Lizzo seems to be all-in on suing the Koreans to get some bucks for Fort Wayne. She's proven herself to be anti-2A and now anti-gun owner. I guess she figures there aren't that many Senate district voters in those 400K 4473s.

She's afraid HB 1235 will derail suing Hyundai/Kia. Old lady Glick was one of the other turncoats on ConC. Emails and phone calls will be needed.

Sadly Glick is my senator. She was a prosecutor when I left. I didn't exactly catch what all she did, and my time is limited this weekend. Can you give me cliff notes of what happened, and she will have a nasty email in her inbox come Monday. Thanks

 

[KellyinAvon]

Sadly Glick is my senator. She was a prosecutor when I left. I didn't exactly catch what all she did, and my time is limited this weekend. Can you give me cliff notes of what happened, and she will have a nasty email in her inbox come Monday. Thanks

@JAL and @BigMoose were on the live stream later on 20 February/after the testimony in the morning/after the Senate session IIRC. She voted against 1235 passing committee. I have not viewed the video. If you scroll back in this thread to 20 February later in the day (after 1700) there should be comments.

 

[loudgroove]

@JAL and @BigMoose were on the live stream later on 20 February/after the testimony in the morning/after the Senate session IIRC. She voted against 1235 passing committee. I have not viewed the video. If you scroll back in this thread to 20 February later in the day (after 1700) there should be comments.

Thats what I have been trying to do since I have some time this morning. I don't want to make a fool out of myself in an email to her. lol But I will say that the 2nd amendment is extremely important to many Lagrange County residents. The only ones I know that it isn't important to are the blue no matter who voters, and sadly I know a few of them. Thanks.

 

[JAL]

@JAL and @BigMoose were on the live stream later on 20 February/after the testimony in the morning/after the Senate session IIRC. She voted against 1235 passing committee. I have not viewed the video. If you scroll back in this thread to 20 February later in the day (after 1700) there should be comments.

Thats what I have been trying to do since I have some time this morning. I don't want to make a fool out of myself in an email to her. lol But I will say that the 2nd amendment is extremely important to many Lagrange County residents. The only ones I know that it isn't important to are the blue no matter who voters, and sadly I know a few of them. Thanks.

Yes -- the Nay votes were Sue Glick and the two Democrats. The video recording you want is "Part 2" which was recorded in the afternoon after the "Recess". Glick explained she feels the case should be finished with a final judgement (which could be devastating in size given Gary demographics) before anyone steps in. You can see her explanation in Part 2 of the recorded video for that day. IIRC, Part 2 is about a half hour long. Before writing her, you'll want to hear it for yourself.

 

[loudgroove]

Yes -- the Nay votes were Sue Glick and the two Democrats. The video recording you want is "Part 2" which was recorded in the afternoon after the "Recess". Glick explained she feels the case should be finished with a final judgement (which could be devastating in size given Gary demographics) before anyone steps in. You can see her explanation in Part 2 of the recorded video for that day. IIRC, Part 2 is about a half hour long. Before writing her, you'll want to hear it for yourself.

Thank you Sir.

 

[loudgroove]

Well or starters she said this isn't about the 2nd A. It's about stopping a lawsuit. I disagree with half of that. For starters, if an innocent gun owner who should be protected could be a potential target (no pun intended), then there should be protections put in place to protect the innocent. Thus, being a gun owner makes it a 2 A issue. Information of an innocent gun purchaser could be used for fraud, harassment, or even potential theft of property. We are private citizens and have that right to privacy. I extremely take issue with this denial.

Getting on with the lawsuit. All forms of government weather federal, state or local has to maintain some form of checks and balances. Otherwise, we could have tyranny. This lawsuit can expose a lot of private information about private citizens. These are people that had nothing to do with bringing on this suit. The state IS obligated to step in to protect private citizens that could be involved at no fault of their own. So, I also take issue for the no vote because of stopping a lawsuit.

Good job Kelly on bringing up fraud in your testimony. But there still could be doxxing of gun owners coming out of this suit. I feel this could lead to something more than having someone's info stolen or even just government overreach. There are too many "political vigilantes" (as I call them) out in this world that are looking to make a name for themselves. And as we have seen in this country with many recent riots. They aren't afraid to travel also. As a private citizen, I insist that all forms of government must take all necessary steps to protect private information.

This is what my thoughts are after watching the video. What's everyone else's opinions before I send this email?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Time points from Tuesday HB 1084 and 1235. Not all encompassing but it'll get you close

1084

1:51:30: Jim Lucas intros the bill

1:56:35: Senator Obtuse is obtuse. Continues until after 2 hour mark

2:04:30: Me with ISRPA

2:06:00: Indiana Sheriff's Association supported

1235 at 2:08:00

2:43:00 Chief Scumbag from the Brady Bunch

2:59:30 Jody Eff'ing Maderia

3:05:25 Corrine Youngs Atty General's Office

3:21:28: Jim Bopp Jr. WATCH THIS!! 3:31:18 starts Senator Obtuse

3:39:35: Greg Cattor (self)

3:41:20: John Weber NRA-ILA

3:45:35: Guy Relford The 2A Project. He had a back and forth with Lizzo

3:51: 40: Courtney from the Prosecutors Association (neutral)

3:55:45: Me with ISRPA

3:59: 07: Christopher Lee with NSSF (not The Man with the Golden Gun, or Count Dooku)

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[BigMoose]

2:43:00 Chief Scumbag from the Brady Bunch

Yep that guy is definitely chief scumbag