Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

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  • DoggyDaddy

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    And taser are cross-draw
    I am having a particularly difficult time with mistaking a taser on the left side of a person's body for a Glock on the right side.
    I didn't realize this until Kut said it. That does indicate that the officer was maybe panicky and just instinctively going for her service weapon. And has been mentioned, she was "senior", so maybe more likely to have had to draw her service weapon than her taser. I'm just spit ballin' on that last part though.
     

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    It is a design flaw that a taser and a handgun both activate with the same action. It invites mistakes.
    Don't say that too loud. You'll have the leftist loons demanding all handguns be redesigned worse than Commiefornia-legal ARs.
     

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    So he was charged with a crime that most "pro-2A" people wouldn't think is a crime? And then when the govt attempted to suppress his liberty because of an Unconstitutional law, he was deprived of his life? What am I missing here?

    My post is tongue in cheek, but the points are valid, considering what people, here, say if confiscation were ever to become a real thing.
    Nothing I've read so far details whether he was a proper person or not. If he was a felon in possession, you're not going to find any 'pro-2A people on INGO' who will have a problem with that warrant, which I believe is another felony

    Your firearms metaphor would be 'to go off half-cocked'
     
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    Stuff like that is so hard for me to wrap my head around. It's indicative of someone not in control, a panic attack. Young officers that haven't seen much, yeah it happens, but there normally comes a point where things shouldn't be that difficult.
    That point is well before you resist arrest and attempt to flee. Just like Floyd, he would still be alive if he had just done what he was told
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Nothing I've read so far details whether he was a proper person or not. If he was a felon in possession, you're not goin go find any 'pro-2A people on INGO' who will have a problem with that warrant, which I believe is another felony

    Your firearms metaphor would be 'to go off half-cocked'
    In my case, Kut is on to something. I am a believer that anyone roaming free is a "proper person" for all rights, and, conversely, if not a "proper person", should be locked up. Consequently, if carrying a gun without a license represents the entirety of the decedent's being wanted, I would take issue wuth that.
     

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    Nothing I've read so far details whether he was a proper person or not. If he was a felon in possession, you're not goin go find any 'pro-2A people on INGO' who will have a problem with that warrant, which I believe is another felony

    Your firearms metaphor would be 'to go off half-cocked'
    I would, depending on the felony.

    Aren't pro 2A people actively fighting for the 2A rights of non violent felons?
     

    BugI02

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    In my case, Kut is on to something. I am a believer that anyone roaming free is a "proper person" for all rights, and, conversely, if not a "proper person", should be locked up. Consequently, if carrying a gun without a license represents the entirety of the decedent's being wanted, I would take issue wuth that.
    My point was, we don't know that that is all there was to it, it could be he had the paper for possessing a firearm under disability not just w/o a license

    As far as needing to be still locked up if not a proper person, i think you would have to shut down probation, then. I think a felon is under disability at least until his sentence is completed, which would include out but on probation, and in some states must petition to restore that right it is not automatically re-instated
     

    IndyDave1776

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    My point was, we don't know that that is all there was to it, it could be he had the paper for possessing a firearm under disability not just w/o a license

    As far as needing to be still locked up if not a proper person, i think you would have to shut down probation, then. I think a felon is under disability at least until his sentence is completed, which would include out but on probation, and in some states must petition to restore that right it is not automatically re-instated
    I have a problem with allowing de facto second-class citizenship. Once this camel has its nose under the tent, it is a problem, and we are already there. We started with felons. Then it was expanded to include some misdemeanors. Next, arms will be prohibited for all misdemeanors. Following that will be infractions. By this time, rights will be available only to the chosen few.

    I will stand by the notion that anyone who csnnot be allowed all his rights should not be roaming free, and that no free citizen should have truncated rights.
     

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    What I stated was that I am not actively fighting for the 2A rights of non-violent felons. No more, no less. There are far more existential threats to RKBA to concentrate on. I have 99 problems and that isn't one of them, mostly because idiots voted for Xiden

    Edit: This was meant as a response to #777, not Dave
     
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    Country singer Merle Haggard observed: “In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there’s available to an average citizen in America right now…"
     
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