Bombs? Really?

[seedubs1]

Because some of us don't want our cops flying drones with tomahawk missiles around. That's why it matters. IMHO, cops should not be allowed to have / use any weapons for killing that civilians can't use. Isn't that the point of the 2nd A ?????

Assuming numbynuts needed to be killed, why does it what how that was accomplished? If necessary, it is justifiable homicide regardless of method.

 

[Jludo]

Assuming numbynuts needed to be killed, why does it what how that was accomplished?

If necessary, it is justifiable homicide regardless of method.

Whats the standard though for what force is used? Do swat teams no longer take out active shooters if a bomb can be tossed in instead?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

For the record I don't agree with scumbags murdering police officers with rifles.

No one here does.

Here's an avenue for those of you who want to make your own bombs.
IDHS: Regulated Explosives Use

We're being facetious.

 

[Principal Skinr]

That wasn't my intention then.

I'm more curious than anything. I can't find any info on if such a method has been used before. This sounds like new territory.

I agree that it is new territory in terms of it being used in a real situation. It may be new all around. I can't help but think this had been thought of a long time ago as they run scenarios. If it has been around awhile and was used for the first time, I feel pretty good about their restraint, so far. In this world, with suicide bombers, I'd be disappointed if they were not thinking of these ways to combat terrorists.

The terrorists are always a step ahead. It is a crappy part of the world we live in. I expect police to be thinking about these things. At the same time, I hope they support my 2nd Amendment right to do the same by arming myself. (Every single LEO friend I have has expressed strong support for the 2A, btw.)

 

[BehindBlueI's]

To anyone who's saying call the military in, are you really suggesting you wouldn't be crying about the US military enforcing domestic laws if that occurred?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Assuming numbynuts needed to be killed, why does it what how that was accomplished?

If necessary, it is justifiable homicide regardless of method.

Maybe it matters because of the potential that some day I might reply to an attempt at gross infringement on my rights by telling such persons to f**k off, and closing the door, and would prefer that there not soon be a crater in place of my home. After all, as much mischief as we have seen with flash-bangs used on the undeserving, why should I expect better discipline with actual bombs?

 

[Tombs]

Because some of us don't want our cops flying drones with tomahawk missiles around. That's why it matters. IMHO, cops should not be allowed to have / use any weapons for killing that civilians can't use. Isn't that the point of the 2nd A ?????

Martinsville police have 40mm grenade launchers, machine guns, and armored personnel carriers.

Police have a lot of things I doubt you realize they do and have had them for a lot longer than you probably thought.

 

[Jludo]

For the record I don't agree with scumbags murdering police officers with rifles.

Here's an avenue for those of you who want to make your own bombs.
IDHS: Regulated Explosives Use

Will they give you a license if you put 'self defense' in the reason box?

 

[seedubs1]

Bringing in the national guard would have been an appropriate response to an active terrorist who is currently killing people.

To anyone who's saying call the military in, are you really suggesting you wouldn't be crying about the US military enforcing domestic laws if that occurred?

 

[Jludo]

Martinsville police have 40mm grenade launchers, machine guns, and armored personnel carriers.

Police have a lot of things I doubt you realize they do and have had them for a lot longer than you probably thought.

That's not a justification that's part of the problem.

 

[seedubs1]

You assume wrong. I fully understand they have these things. I am not ok with it. That's the reason for the 2nd A. To ensure we have equivalent weaponry. If you are OK with cops having these things while civilians are banned, you are anti-2A.

Martinsville police have 40mm grenade launchers, machine guns, and armored personnel carriers. Police have a lot of things I doubt you realize they do and have had them for a lot longer than you probably thought.

 

[phylodog]

We're being facetious.

The claim has been made that non police officers can't have access to explosives. I'm simply pointing out that to be false. Expect a significant amount of scrutiny and oversight however, just like the police department's receive.

 

[seedubs1]

This. And it's a prime example of "well, other LEO's are doing it, so why shouldn't we." That's NOT an adequate argument.

That's not a justification that's part of the problem.

 

[Tombs]

That's not a justification that's part of the problem.

And I've spoken out about it.

The caveat is that if there's actually threats to justify it, as in an active terrorist group carrying out organized attacks, I don't have as much of a problem with it. Elmer fudd saying they have it because of IEDs when we've never had an instance or any reason to believe people are taking artillery shells and wiring them up to phones in the US isn't quite the justification I'm looking for.

 

[phylodog]

Will they give you a license if you put 'self defense' in the reason box?

I'm not the person to ask

 

[seedubs1]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

And I've spoken out about it. The caveat is that if there's actually threats to justify it, as in an active terrorist group carrying out organized attacks, I don't have as much of a problem with it. Elmer fudd saying they have it because of IEDs when we've never had an instance or any reason to believe people are taking artillery shells and wiring them up to phones in the US isn't quite the justification I'm looking for.

 

[Tombs]

You assume wrong. I fully understand they have these things. I am not ok with it. That's the reason for the 2nd A. To ensure we have equivalent weaponry. If you are OK with cops having these things while civilians are banned, you are anti-2A.

You can buy machine guns, you can buy 40mm grenade launchers and ammo for them, and you can buy armored personnel carriers.

While expensive and difficult, you most certainly can get all of these things. I oppose the hughes amendment and the NFA fully, but you can still get these things.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Isn't a matter of safety, it's a matter of their personal defense against an active terror cell who is carrying out organized attacks targeted at them.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

This may come as a total shock to some of you but police departments have had access to explosives for decades. They typically serve two purposes, explosive breaching (like in Orlando) and bomb detonation. In spite of the fact this crap has been around for decades the police have somehow managed to not start building bombs and blowing **** up on a regular basis. Seems to have been reserved for special occasions, like 5 cops getting murdered at one "peaceful" protest.

Not a shock to me, I got to see them blow up the Tippecanoe County Courthouse truckbomb.

 

[seedubs1]

Nope. Whole bunch of nope. Police are not relegated to only buying old outdated automatic weaponry that has been put completely out of reach, price wise, due to the NFA. They do not play by the same rules as we do. This is not an adequate argument.

You can buy machine guns, you can buy 40mm grenade launchers and ammo for them, and you can buy armored personnel carriers. While expensive and difficult, you most certainly can get all of these things. I oppose the hughes amendment and the NFA fully, but you can still get these things.

 

[phylodog]

Not a shock to me, I got to see them blow up the Tippecanoe County Courthouse truckbomb.

Clearly they should have been forced to send an officer up to the truck bomb and detonate it himself.