police arresting people "wandering" blast zone.....

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    The neighborhood blew up on the southside. I live at least 10 miles away and heard/felt the thump, indoors with the tv on.

    Today, reading the news I see that they forced evacuation and are offering to arrest people who are going back home (http://www.indystar.com/article/201...de-blast?odyssey=mod|defcon|text|IndyStar.com)

    Does anyone know the legal mechanism that would ban a person from their property without due process?

    When a tornado dragged the whole trailer court over and past my house, the fire dept. tried to tell me the same thing, that I had to leave. I told them no thank you (in more colorful language) and closed my door. I never heard another peep after that.

    What's the difference here? how do they bar access to people's property under threat of arrest?
     

    Suprtek

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    They certainly need to be watchful against looting and the like. Anyone in the area should expect to be questioned, but I've often wondered the same thing about their authority in such situations. I feel it is important to say that the authorities are absolutely appreciated. There's always a line that causes problems once it gets crossed though.
     

    indykid

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    It is hard to explain, but playing devil's advocate, say you went back to your home down the street from the explosion. Being an architect you can tell that your home is structurally sound. Oh wait, you are not, and by stepping across your living room, the vibration brings the ceiling down. You use your cell phone to call for help as you are trapped, but mostly unharmed.

    Responders rush to your rescue, and in trying to get you out, the main roof truss comes down and kills the EMT trying to get you out. Another fireperson is injured.

    Finally you are safely removed from the rubble. Knowing you are unheart, are you still happy that you didn't want to wait it out? Tell that to the EMT's family.

    The above is why rescuers prefer you do not return until your area is really secured.
     

    sepe

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    The neighborhood blew up on the southside. I live at least 10 miles away and heard/felt the thump, indoors with the tv on.

    Today, reading the news I see that they forced evacuation and are offering to arrest people who are going back home (http://www.indystar.com/article/201...de-blast?odyssey=mod|defcon|text|IndyStar.com)

    Does anyone know the legal mechanism that would ban a person from their property without due process?

    When a tornado dragged the whole trailer court over and past my house, the fire dept. tried to tell me the same thing, that I had to leave. I told them no thank you (in more colorful language) and closed my door. I never heard another peep after that.

    What's the difference here? how do they bar access to people's property under threat of arrest?

    If I were the people dealing with this right now and the police were saying they'd arrest me if I went into my own home, I'd head out and buy a gun (for every family member since I'm not allowed back in just yet) and set up my own little tent city to protect my :poop:.
     

    Classic

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    I was wondering today what a collector might want to do. If it's not possible to take the collection due to the rush of the evacuation and the collector's home was not significantly damaged, he might want to stay around to keep an eye on things.
     

    jsx1043

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    Authority lies in that the entire neighborhood is considered to be a crime until otherwise determined. Large scale incidents start with an enormous crime scene and are scaled back as areas are cleared and deemed safe. The search for blast evidence can be out as far as half a mile. It started last night while we were on scene and the fire was extinguished, and ran through the morning. Houses were checked for safety and homeowners were escorted on the scene to retrieve items from their houses if they were deemed safe.
     

    Bunnykid68

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    If I were the people dealing with this right now and the police were saying they'd arrest me if I went into my own home, I'd head out and buy a gun (for every family member since I'm not allowed back in just yet) and set up my own little tent city to protect my :poop:.
    No need to buy guns. I will loan you a few of mine, a tent, some food, and a radio.
     

    GBuck

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    It is hard to explain, but playing devil's advocate, say you went back to your home down the street from the explosion. Being an architect you can tell that your home is structurally sound. Oh wait, you are not, and by stepping across your living room, the vibration brings the ceiling down. You use your cell phone to call for help as you are trapped, but mostly unharmed.

    Responders rush to your rescue, and in trying to get you out, the main roof truss comes down and kills the EMT trying to get you out. Another fireperson is injured.

    Finally you are safely removed from the rubble. Knowing you are unheart, are you still happy that you didn't want to wait it out? Tell that to the EMT's family.

    The above is why rescuers prefer you do not return until your area is really secured.
    THIS.
     

    sepe

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    No need to buy guns. I will loan you a few of mine, a tent, some food, and a radio.

    But buying MORE guns means when things have had a little time to settle down and return to more normal, I have MORE guns for my collection or if mine were ruined I'll have a check from my friendly insurance agent to replace them. I'm always thinking build the collection any time it is possible.
     

    Bunnykid68

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    But buying MORE guns means when things have had a little time to settle down and return to more normal, I have MORE guns for my collection or if mine were ruined I'll have a check from my friendly insurance agent to replace them. I'm always thinking build the collection any time it is possible.
    OK, point taken, offer still stands.

    Frenchie, sorry, I do not ship :D And I am keeping the brownies, got them from Colorado
     

    LockStocksAndBarrel

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    The neighborhood blew up on the southside. I live at least 10 miles away and heard/felt the thump, indoors with the tv on.

    Today, reading the news I see that they forced evacuation and are offering to arrest people who are going back home (http://www.indystar.com/article/201...de-blast?odyssey=mod|defcon|text|IndyStar.com)

    Does anyone know the legal mechanism that would ban a person from their property without due process?

    When a tornado dragged the whole trailer court over and past my house, the fire dept. tried to tell me the same thing, that I had to leave. I told them no thank you (in more colorful language) and closed my door. I never heard another peep after that.

    What's the difference here? how do they bar access to people's property under threat of arrest?

    Did anyone read the comments after the linked article?

    CIA drone did it.

    I would like to believe that's crazy...right?
     
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