Thanks again Tyler. I went ahead and ordered a La Griffe from the first company. We'll see how long it takes with the same "pre order" wording. That leaves me only $70 in limbo. It also gives Big Dave (slow1911s) a chance to come up with a Karambit. I like to support the local guys when I can. http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=EMLAG