Had to pass Patriot Act screening to buy a car

[PeaShooter]

Here's the story:
My buddy was buying a new car and giving his old one to his wife. I was buying the wife's mini van, since their last kid is off to college. I was paying him fair market value for the van, not dealer trade in value. We ran the deal through the dealership so that he could save $1000 in taxes on his new car (which we split because it was my idea). I am paying cash for the van, so no loan. Long story, short, when i get to the finance office to pay for the van, I have to complete a Patriot Act questionnaire and answer online challenge questions about my past to prove my identity! Also, my wife couldn't be put on the title, because she couldn't personally be there at the time we did the deal. She would have had to give an ID and gone through the questionnaire process also to be put on the title.

What is going on in this country. I can't even buy a car without being checked out by the government. And they were asking questions about my address from 25 yrs ago when I lived at home?!? We have got talk to our legislators to let the patriot act expire. Why should the federal government be involved in a non-interstate commerce transaction? Ok /rantoff.

 

[Ted]

I'm presuming that cost met the statutory amount.

Anti-Money Laundering - CFTC

 

[PeaShooter]

Didn't walk in with $100 bills, I wrote a personal check off a local bank.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Take a stack of 100s and put them in your washer/dryer.
Launder that money.

 

[mrjarrell]

If you're wanting the USA PATRIOT Act to expire then you'd better stop voting for dems and republicrats. They're all in love with it. Especially the Indiana crew.

 

[Ted]

Didn't walk in with $100 bills, I wrote a personal check off a local bank.

The law didn't specify just cash transactions.

 

[handgun]

Your lucky, they didn't call the police... and tell them this smelled fishy that you have cash.. Because no one has cash anymore... They might have tried to take it claiming some sort of Civil Forfeiture because it was probably drug money, due to them being able to find some microscopic amounts of drugs on the money.

 

[level.eleven]

You should write a letter to your representative. I heard they read them all and take them into account when they vote.

 

[IndyDave1776]

You should write a letter to your representative. I heard they read them all and take them into account when they vote.

Did you run out of purple?

Incidnetally, I have been blocked from Lugar's e-mai for several years. After he had voted in favor of more amnesty for illegalsw, I sent a simple question that someone apparently didn't appreciate: "Como se dice 'f**k you' en espanol?"

 

[handgun]

Did you run out of purple?

Incidnetally, I have been blocked from Lugar's e-mai for several years. After he had voted in favor of more amnesty for illegalsw, I sent a simple question that someone apparently didn't appreciate: "Como se dice 'f**k you' en espanol?"

Chinga tu maldre should get the job done.. but it means f ur mother. Loosely translated.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why should the federal government be involved in a non-interstate commerce transaction?

So, your car was made in Indiana?

 

[IndyDave1776]

So, your car was made in Indiana?

Come on Kirk! According to Wickard v. Filburn all he has to do is displace the potential sale of an automobile which may potentially come from another state!

 

[Ted]

Chinga tu maldre should get the job done.. but it means f ur mother. Loosely translated.

I was thinking more of a simple, 'Puta Madre'.

 

[Ted]

Come on Kirk! According to Wickard v. Filburn all he has to do is displace the potential sale of an automobile which may potentially come from another state!

I had hoped that in Lopez, Boerne, Kimel, Garrett, and Morrison, that clearer judicial heads would have entirely reversed Wickard.

So much for state sovereignty, and the limitations upon the federal government.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

Chinga tu maldre should get the job done.. but it means f ur mother. Loosely translated.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w3LVY-6bEQ[/ame]

 

[churchmouse]

Guess you should have just paid him for the car and avoided all this HUH.........

 

[rambone]

So, your car was made in Indiana?

I suppose you think Federal background checks on end-users is exactly what the Commerce Clause was written for.

 

[rambone]

Some more info on the Patriot Act and auto dealers.

The Federal No-Sell List: Prohibitions on auto dealers via the Patriot Act

 

[ocsdor]

...What is going on in this country? I can't even buy a car without being checked out by the government. And they were asking questions about my address from 25 yrs ago when I lived at home?!?

Wait until you need an RFID implant to buy groceries.

 

[Ted]

Wait until you need an RFID implant to buy groceries.

I think that we're already well on our way.

This article is from 2003.

“ Right now, you can buy a hammer, a pair of jeans, or a razor blade with anonymity. With RFID tags, that may be a thing of the past. ”