Wokeness cult getting out of hand

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The cult of wokeness has been running amok all over the land for quite some time now. It's cost us riots, freedoms, an election, a plandemic... there just never seems to be an end to what people won't sacrifice on the altar of wokedom. There is a so called human out there claims to be a Christian, who wrote a devotional book that includes a prayer where she asks God to help her have the strength to "hate white people".

Really? I'm not exactly a saint, but someone please explain to me the idea of a self proclaimed Christian... asking God, to help hate people...

https://www.theblaze.com/news/bests...people?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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The division and hatred that is being instilled within the population right now in the blessed name of wokeness has got to be put to a stop somehow.
I don't know how, at least not peacefully... (that's the scary part) but it needs to stop.
I feel like Solomon Kane needs to walk the earth vanquishing evil.
 

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We would all do well to study up on Critical Theory and its progeny, Critical Race Theory.

Rather than seeing these things as a bunch of insane separate wokenesses, we need to see them for what they are- a unified, internally consistent movement. It is Marxism in that it is a rehash of "haves" vs. "have nots", but it is based on race (as to Critical race Theory) rather than economics.

Critical Theory is explicitly based upon an oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic. The "majority" (which not always the majority) is the oppressor, the "minority" (not always a true minority) is the oppressed, e.g.:

White vs. Non-White
Man vs. Woman
Judeo-Christian vs. Everything Else
Heterosexual vs. All Others
Cisgender vs. Trans
etc., etc., etc.

Hear it, learn it: Under this belief system it does not matter how you treat others. Oppression exists, invisibly, in the "system" no matter how you treat others.

Honestly, it is an excuse for a member in any group to not achieve because you can claim oppression without any objective evidence.

It goes way beyond this short summary, but it pervasive and many average people who simply want to be nice, but have no idea about Critical Theory are willing to entertain it because they don't want to be seen as "mean".
 

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We would all do well to study up on Critical Theory and its progeny, Critical Race Theory.

Rather than seeing these things as a bunch of insane separate wokenesses, we need to see them for what they are- a unified, internally consistent movement. It is Marxism in that it is a rehash of "haves" vs. "have nots", but it is based on race (as to Critical race Theory) rather than economics.

Critical Theory is explicitly based upon an oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic. The "majority" (which not always the majority) is the oppressor, the "minority" (not always a true minority) is the oppressed, e.g.:

White vs. Non-White
Man vs. Woman
Judeo-Christian vs. Everything Else
Heterosexual vs. All Others
Cisgender vs. Trans
etc., etc., etc.

Hear it, learn it: Under this belief system it does not matter how you treat others. Oppression exists, invisibly, in the "system" no matter how you treat others.

Honestly, it is an excuse for a member in any group to not achieve because you can claim oppression without any objective evidence.

It goes way beyond this short summary, but it pervasive and many average people who simply want to be nice, but have no idea about Critical Theory are willing to entertain it because they don't want to be seen as "mean".
Are we having a discussion, or do you expect this to go sideways, if its attempted?
 

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We would all do well to study up on Critical Theory and its progeny, Critical Race Theory.

Rather than seeing these things as a bunch of insane separate wokenesses, we need to see them for what they are- a unified, internally consistent movement. It is Marxism in that it is a rehash of "haves" vs. "have nots", but it is based on race (as to Critical race Theory) rather than economics.

Critical Theory is explicitly based upon an oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic. The "majority" (which not always the majority) is the oppressor, the "minority" (not always a true minority) is the oppressed, e.g.:

White vs. Non-White
Man vs. Woman
Judeo-Christian vs. Everything Else
Heterosexual vs. All Others
Cisgender vs. Trans
etc., etc., etc.

Hear it, learn it: Under this belief system it does not matter how you treat others. Oppression exists, invisibly, in the "system" no matter how you treat others.

Honestly, it is an excuse for a member in any group to not achieve because you can claim oppression without any objective evidence.

It goes way beyond this short summary, but it pervasive and many average people who simply want to be nice, but have no idea about Critical Theory are willing to entertain it because they don't want to be seen as "mean".
How much of this, do you think is based (from the American perspective) on not addressing these issues long ago when reconciliation would have been easier? It's like having your leg broke, but rather than going to the doctor, you let it heal wrong, and after time it starts to bother you again, and in order to fix it, you have to have your leg re broken.
 

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How much of this, do you think is based (from the American perspective) on not addressing these issues long ago when reconciliation would have been easier? It's like having your leg broke, but rather than going to the doctor, you let it heal wrong, and after time it starts to bother you again, and in order to fix it, you have to have your leg re broken.
Addressing racism itself? Yes, taking it on more effectively long ago would have helped.

However, while racism did and does exist, that is a different issue that Critical Race Theory which only brushes up against overt racism and is really based upon the notion that there is not much overt racism in broad culture anymore.
 

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Addressing racism itself? Yes, taking it on more effectively long ago would have helped.

However, while racism did and does exist, that is a different issue that Critical Race Theory which only brushes up against overt racism and is really based upon the notion that there is not much overt racism in broad culture anymore.
I can agree that there’s not much overt racism anymore. Now it embedded in coded language. Like “Canadians,” or “Channel Zero.” In a world where your footprints can easily be tracked, and with everyone waking up, it’s smart. There are a LOT, prejudiced people out there of all colors, and people have friends like that, sometimes don’t even realize it.
 

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I can agree that there’s not much overt racism anymore. Now it embedded in coded language. Like “Canadians,” or “Channel Zero.” In a world where your footprints can easily be tracked, and with everyone waking up, it’s smart. There are a LOT, prejudiced people out there of all colors, and people have friends like that, sometimes don’t even realize it.
And how much of this perceived prejudice or racism is not actually racism at all, but a simple case of cultural differences?

I am a white male. I grew up in mostly rural areas. I hunt, I fish, I own and carry guns. The culture that I grew up in is much different than that of my best friend who grew up in Brooklyn. Now you take an African American male who grew up in an urban setting, where gangs are the norm, and you have an entirely different cultural experience. Or a Hispanic male who grew up in a predominately Hispanic neighborhood in Miami. The list could go on...

The point is that for the most part, we gravitate toward the culture that we know and are comfortable with. The problem with much of the racial accusations that I see today stems from a failure to understand differing cultures. Example: I had a black co-worker attempt to convince me that I was inherently racist because I was a white male who grew up in a white male culture, and since I could not relate to the struggles of a black male, that made me racist.

For the record, I admit that I can't relate to the struggles of a black male. Or an asian male, or a hispanic male. America is a melting pot of different cultures. That's what makes it great. I wouldn't call an Asian male racist because he didn't fully relate to the culture that I grew up in. We don't need to relate to different cultures. In fact, I would argue that one CAN'T relate to a different culture unless they are immersed in that culture.

But the accusations of racism continue. And they are usually aimed at Caucasians. And the accuser doesn't need proof of overt racism to make his accusations. He simply assumes racism based on lack of understanding of a different culture. The lines have been drawn, and they are lop sided. The expectation is for all Caucasians to empathize with Black, Hispanic, and Asian cultures. But those cultures are not expected to empathize with the Caucasian. If anything is racist, THAT is racist.
 

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We would all do well to study up on Critical Theory and its progeny, Critical Race Theory.

Rather than seeing these things as a bunch of insane separate wokenesses, we need to see them for what they are- a unified, internally consistent movement. It is Marxism in that it is a rehash of "haves" vs. "have nots", but it is based on race (as to Critical race Theory) rather than economics.

Critical Theory is explicitly based upon an oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic. The "majority" (which not always the majority) is the oppressor, the "minority" (not always a true minority) is the oppressed, e.g.:

White vs. Non-White
Man vs. Woman
Judeo-Christian vs. Everything Else
Heterosexual vs. All Others
Cisgender vs. Trans
etc., etc., etc.

Hear it, learn it: Under this belief system it does not matter how you treat others. Oppression exists, invisibly, in the "system" no matter how you treat others.

Honestly, it is an excuse for a member in any group to not achieve because you can claim oppression without any objective evidence.

It goes way beyond this short summary, but it pervasive and many average people who simply want to be nice, but have no idea about Critical Theory are willing to entertain it because they don't want to be seen as "mean".

So, if the theory states that oppression always exists within the system, does that mean that those people calling for changing the system, whether intentional are not, are not actually ending oppression. Rather they are making themselves the new class of oppressors?
 

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And how much of this perceived prejudice or racism is not actually racism at all, but a simple case of cultural differences?

I am a white male. I grew up in mostly rural areas. I hunt, I fish, I own and carry guns. The culture that I grew up in is much different than that of my best friend who grew up in Brooklyn. Now you take an African American male who grew up in an urban setting, where gangs are the norm, and you have an entirely different cultural experience. Or a Hispanic male who grew up in a predominately Hispanic neighborhood in Miami. The list could go on...

The point is that for the most part, we gravitate toward the culture that we know and are comfortable with. The problem with much of the racial accusations that I see today stems from a failure to understand differing cultures. Example: I had a black co-worker attempt to convince me that I was inherently racist because I was a white male who grew up in a white male culture, and since I could not relate to the struggles of a black male, that made me racist.

For the record, I admit that I can't relate to the struggles of a black male. Or an asian male, or a hispanic male. America is a melting pot of different cultures. That's what makes it great. I wouldn't call an Asian male racist because he didn't fully relate to the culture that I grew up in. We don't need to relate to different cultures. In fact, I would argue that one CAN'T relate to a different culture unless they are immersed in that culture.

But the accusations of racism continue. And they are usually aimed at Caucasians. And the accuser doesn't need proof of overt racism to make his accusations. He simply assumes racism based on lack of understanding of a different culture. The lines have been drawn, and they are lop sided. The expectation is for all Caucasians to empathize with Black, Hispanic, and Asian cultures. But those cultures are not expected to empathize with the Caucasian. If anything is racist, THAT is racist.
This is an excellent post, and thank you for being candid. I’m kinda busy, so I’ll address it later, with an edit.
but FYI, I too grew up rural, hunt, fish, mudding, rode horses, partied in barns, and raided stills in the woods. Obviously I also own and carry guns.
 

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So, if the theory states that oppression always exists within the system, does that mean that those people calling for changing the system, whether intentional are not, are not actually ending oppression. Rather they are making themselves the new class of oppressors?
This is how it appears to me. Witness what happened in Portland with their "black people only" zones in "Chaz" or whatever they were calling their autonomous zone. And also what has happened with some colleges out east going with "blacks only" dormatories. Things that would not have been acceptable after the CRA are now all the rage, only the roles have been reversed.
 

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We would all do well to study up on Critical Theory and its progeny, Critical Race Theory.

Rather than seeing these things as a bunch of insane separate wokenesses, we need to see them for what they are- a unified, internally consistent movement. It is Marxism in that it is a rehash of "haves" vs. "have nots", but it is based on race (as to Critical race Theory) rather than economics.

Critical Theory is explicitly based upon an oppressor vs. oppressed dynamic. The "majority" (which not always the majority) is the oppressor, the "minority" (not always a true minority) is the oppressed, e.g.:

White vs. Non-White
Man vs. Woman
Judeo-Christian vs. Everything Else
Heterosexual vs. All Others
Cisgender vs. Trans
etc., etc., etc.

Hear it, learn it: Under this belief system it does not matter how you treat others. Oppression exists, invisibly, in the "system" no matter how you treat others.

Honestly, it is an excuse for a member in any group to not achieve because you can claim oppression without any objective evidence.

It goes way beyond this short summary, but it pervasive and many average people who simply want to be nice, but have no idea about Critical Theory are willing to entertain it because they don't want to be seen as "mean".
So much truth here.
And we are tired of being labeled as well.
 

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How much of this, do you think is based (from the American perspective) on not addressing these issues long ago when reconciliation would have been easier? It's like having your leg broke, but rather than going to the doctor, you let it heal wrong, and after time it starts to bother you again, and in order to fix it, you have to have your leg re broken.
I don't have anything to reconcile
 
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