Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[JettaKnight]

28 page informed consent form. Read that twice. I've also read the NEJM coverage of the stage 1 and 2 studies and the studies oversees, information from the NIH, CDC and FDA and numerous other scholarly and journalistic articles. Interesting stuff. There is nothing in all of that which would give me pause about being involved.

Pretty sure it was 29 pages - you must have lost the one about 5G microchips.

 

[HoughMade]

Pretty sure it was 29 pages - you must have lost the one about 5G microchips.

Nope that was in there. There was even a fascinating part about possible side effects that was actually written by Max Brooks.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

For those interested in getting the vaccine, Indiana is now open to those 70 and older (in addition to other priority 1A categories).

Vaccine Information and Planning

www.coronavirus.in.gov

 

[HoughMade]

For those interested in getting the vaccine, Indiana is now open to those 70 and older (in addition to other priority 1A categories).

Vaccine Information and Planning

www.coronavirus.in.gov

My mother-in-law (age 83) got her first dose last Friday. Scheduled for the second Feb. 10.

From numerous anecdotal reports (MIL, other family and friends in both Indiana and Michigan) there are many instances of people not showing for their appointments so, because the vaccine is perishable, they are keeping a "stand-by" list of people, many of which would not be eligible at this time, so that they can fully utilize the vaccine that they have prepared. If you get the first dose as a stand-by, they schedule your second dose right then and whether you were otherwise eligible given the priorities is irrelevant. They will administer the second dose. Despite what the news elsewhere is, I have heard of no issues with supply or distribution from the places where I have some inside info.

 

[rlw9337]

Yes

 

[SarahG]

Got my first dose on the 15th. Made me sleepy as can be for a few hours, but other than that it was all good. Ready to get the second one over with!

 

[joncon]

Got the first dose today, no ill effects so far, not even sore. Get my second on the 19th.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Biden wants to make sure he gets 100 million doses administered in the first 100 days. Trump was awful and only did 18 million in the first month.

but in the week before Biden came in we were up to 913,000 doses that week. On a massive uptick in administration rate, and Biden wants to do a whole lot more to tick it up another 9% when it's headed there already thanks to existing rollout programs

it's like he wants a car to go 100mph and the idiot trump only took a non-existent car, oversaw its construction, and got it to 92mph and still accelerating, before Biden comes in and says trump is an idiot, I'll get that car all the way too 100!
what a maroon.

 

[HoughMade]

In the eyes of many, Biden will be the hero that ends the pandemic...but getting the vaccines administered is the easy part. Much, much easier than clearing the path to getting them created.

 

[hoosierdoc]

and don't you like how amazon waits to offer to help distribution until Biden is sworn in?

 

[phylodog]

Typical behavior for liars and thieves.

 

[smittygj]

I should get mine over here in Bahrain in a week or two. Yes, it is voluntary, and yes, as an at risk fat ass, I will be taking it. Just being honest....

 

[smokingman]

Alex Sigal is a senior researcher at the Africa Health Research Institute and at Germany's Max Planck Institute for Infection Biology. He says the new strain discovered in South Africa appears to have the ability to reduce the effectiveness of antibodies in people infected with the original version of the virus significantly.

"Ten-fold would be conservative," he tells CBS News, but "you can also have a complete knock-out," meaning a person's natural defenses to the original strain of the virus could prove useless against the variant in South Africa.

South African Covid variant may make vaccines 50 per cent less effective, claims Matt Hancock(British Secretary of Health).​

South Africa strain highly resistant to antibodies from original COVID

Scientists say the data's not in yet, but there are worrying signs the strain sweeping across South Africa could be resistant to the current vaccines.

www.yahoo.com

South African Covid variant may make vaccines 50 per cent less effective, claims Matt Hancock

The South African Covid variant could make current vaccines 50 per cent less effective, Matt Hancock has claimed. In video footage of a webinar with travel agents, the Health Secretary warned that the importation of the variant could ruin Britain's vaccination drive and send the country "back to...

www.yahoo.com

WHO panel to issue recommendations on Moderna vaccine next week

An independent panel of vaccine experts has reviewed data from Moderna Inc's COVID-19 vaccine and will make public its recommendations on the vaccine's use next Tuesday, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Friday. Mariangela Simao, WHO assistant director-general for access to medicines...

www.yahoo.com

Three new laboratory studies are raising concerns that the immune response triggered by a Covid-19 infection or vaccination may be less effective at protecting against the new strain of the coronavirus that first emerged in South Africa.

Coronavirus vaccines may be less effective against South African strain, studies indicate

Three new studies suggest that the coronavirus vaccines may prove less effective against the South African variant of the virus. Three laboratory studies that have not been published yet found that antibodies induced by both the vaccine and previous cases of COVID-19 produced a weaker response...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Escape from neutralizing antibodies by SARS-CoV-2 spike protein variants

Neutralizing antibodies elicited by prior infection or vaccination are likely to be key for future protection of individuals and populations against SARS-CoV-2. Moreover, passively administered antibodies are among the most promising therapeutic and prophylactic ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Study reveals possible SARS-CoV-2 escape mutant that may re-infect immune individuals

A recent study by US researchers shows how the 501Y.V2 variant of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), characterized by several mutations, is able to escape neutralization by present first-wave anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies and potentially re-infect COVID-19...

www.news-medical.net

Molecular dynamic simulation reveals E484K mutation enhances spike RBD-ACE2 affinity and the combination of E484K, K417N and N501Y mutations (501Y.V2 variant) induces conformational change greater than N501Y mutant alone, potentially resulting in an

Rapidly spreading SARS-CoV-2 variants present not only an increased threat to human health due to the confirmed greater transmissibility of several of these new strains but, due to conformational changes induced by the mutations, may render first-wave SARS-CoV-2 convalescent sera...

www.biorxiv.org

 

[BigRed]

In the eyes of many, Biden will be the hero that ends the pandemic...but getting the vaccines administered is the easy part. Much, much easier than clearing the path to getting them created.

Biden can go eat a pile of dung.

 

[smokingman]

Covid strain found in South Africa 'could evade' Eli Lilly's antibody drug, CEO warns

"The South African variant ... is the one of concern. It has more dramatic mutations to that spike protein," Eli Lilly CEO Dave Ricks said.

www.cnbc.com

• The Covid variant initially found in South Africa “could evade our medicines,” Eli Lilly CEO Dave Ricks told CNBC on Tuesday.
• “The South African variant ... is the one of concern. It has more dramatic mutations to that spike protein, which is the target” of these antibody drugs, Ricks said.
• By contrast, Ricks said he was confident Lilly’s antibody drug would work against the strain initially found in the U.K.

 

[jamil]

Biden wants to make sure he gets 100 million doses administered in the first 100 days. Trump was awful and only did 18 million in the first month.

but in the week before Biden came in we were up to 913,000 doses that week. On a massive uptick in administration rate, and Biden wants to do a whole lot more to tick it up another 9% when it's headed there already thanks to existing rollout programs

it's like he wants a car to go 100mph and the idiot trump only took a non-existent car, oversaw its construction, and got it to 92mph and still accelerating, before Biden comes in and says trump is an idiot, I'll get that car all the way too 100!
what a maroon.

It's like the "mask mandate" for interstate travel. People traveling by plane, train, or bus, are already required to wear masks whether it's interstate or not. So he orders what's already being done so he can put his name on it as if he did it.

 

[HoughMade]

It's like the "mask mandate" for interstate travel. People traveling by plane, train, or bus, are already required to wear masks whether it's interstate or not. So he orders what's already being done so he can put his name on it as if he did it.

We should feel a little encouragement in that the new administration apparently believed that the Constitution was an actual limit to its power.

 

[jamil]

We should feel a little encouragement in that the new administration apparently believed that the Constitution was an actual limit to its power.

That came to mind when I read the order. So there's that. But it's also virtue signaling to order something that's already being done just to say that you're doing something different. In this case, the previous administration left such things up to those industries, which is the way a free society would do it.

 

[avboiler11]

I'm always leery of "could" and "may" in any news piece or statement describing potential doom and gloom...those kinds of stories/statements get the reader (or viewer) afraid, but using those kind of equivocating words gives the writer/speaker an out should the worst-case scenario described not come to pass.

 

[dusty88]

I'm always leery of "could" and "may" in any news piece or statement describing potential doom and gloom...those kinds of stories/statements get the reader (or viewer) afraid, but using those kind of equivocating words gives the writer/speaker an out should the worst-case scenario described not come to pass.

I think that's fair in terms of the South African variant. There is real concern though, as some in vitro research demonstrated the variant wasn't neutralized as well.

The mRNA vaccines can be relatively easily modified for a change in spike protein. However, if a vaccine-resistant strain starts spreading we'd then be trying to revaccinate some people as well as all of those not vaccinated yet.

As long as a big chunk of society stays unvaccinated and the virus is replicating, and gets bounced into vaccinated people, that is a recipe for producing vaccine resistant strains (whether this one is or not).