WI issues with p320

[singlestacksig]

"Err on the side of caution and remove them from service," state FOP leader says of P320 police gun.

"Err on the side of caution and remove them from service," state FOP leader says of P320 police gun.

www.wisn.com

 

[Refrigerator27]

Yup, a reoccuring issue that lots of people have had.

Sig had a recall a few years back regarding dropping the gun and it discharging. They seem to be refusing to recall it again. Once again Sig testing R&D guns on the civilian market.

Sig Sauer Refuses to Recall Its P320 Handgun

If you or someone you love is injured because of a product liability case during this global crisis, or at any time, The Stoddard Firm can help.

thestoddardfirm.com

 

[binkerton]

Yup, a reoccuring issue that lots of people have had.

Sig had a recall a few years back regarding dropping the gun and it discharging. They seem to be refusing to recall it again. Once again Sig testing R&D guns on the civilian market.

Sig Sauer Refuses to Recall Its P320 Handgun

If you or someone you love is injured because of a product liability case during this global crisis, or at any time, The Stoddard Firm can help.

thestoddardfirm.com

Boy, that linked article written by an ambulance chaser doesnt seem biased at all. I mean, they even used CNN as a news source. I'm not saying there isnt something to this, but I'm gonna need to see something better than that.

 

[Creedmoor]

Some here think a safety on a striker fired is a bad thing.
My 320's have factory safetys.

As of yet, none have discharged on their own.

 

[Expat]

Weird. I dunno... once money becomes involved, I tend not to believe most of what I hear or read.

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

Some here think a safety on a striker fired is a bad thing.
My 320's have factory safetys.
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As of yet, none have discharged on their own.

The military requested a manual safety as usual on their weapons. I think this is why we haven't seen (if they would tell) any reports of theirs's self discharging if it is an issue.

 

[Gabriel]

I have screen captured part of the article and conveniently marked the most likely culprit.

 

[DadSmith]

Are these guns firing without the trigger being pressed? Or is it clothing being caught in the trigger while holstering, or something different?

 

[ditcherman]

Are these guns firing without the trigger being pressed? Or is it clothing being caught in the trigger while holstering, or something different?

How can we ever know?

I think quite a few of these stories have not been able to rule out clothing issues, and to bring the purse lady into it, without revealing that it was probably a holster issue is disingenuous at best (speaking to the ambulance chaser article).

What would INGO think about beating the crap out of a gun trying to get it to discharge? Is that a good test? Would that give you comfort, knowing you’ve hit it pretty hard, at the known angle of discharge and many others?
Asking for a friend.
My friend seems comfortable with his.

 

[BigRed3588]

Are these guns firing without the trigger being pressed? Or is it clothing being caught in the trigger while holstering, or something different?

My $ is on user error. I assembled a 320 using Sig parts and received a faulty FCU. The sear would release the striker but the gun wouldn’t fire because the striker safety disconnect wasn’t raising high enough to disengage the safety. IMO, the likelihood of the striker dropping on its own and the safety failing simultaneously is pretty low. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but I definitely don’t think it’s happening at the rate that’s being reported.

 

[ditcherman]

My $ is on user error. I assembled a 320 using Sig parts and received a faulty FCU. The sear would release the striker but the gun wouldn’t fire because the striker safety disconnect wasn’t raising high enough to disengage the safety. IMO, the likelihood of the striker dropping on its own and the safety failing simultaneously is pretty low. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but I definitely don’t think it’s happening at the rate that’s being reported.

Sounds much more scientific and reliable than my way my friends way.

Seriously though, is this something you could observe with the slide off the FCU/lower? Observing it on the fcu itself?

 

[bwframe]

Alec Baldwin did not pull the trigger either, right?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Are these guns firing without the trigger being pressed? Or is it clothing being caught in the trigger while holstering, or something different?

Guns firing without triggers being pulled.

Funny how that happens, no?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Sounds much more scientific and reliable than my way my friends way.

Seriously though, is this something you could observe with the slide off the FCU/lower? Observing it on the fcu itself?

Yes, trigger itself was too heavy. It continued on when dropped.

 

[DadSmith]

Guns firing without triggers being pulled.

Funny how that happens, no?

I would think in court they would have to prove that the firearm fired on its own. Hard to believe it could inside a holster.
I think those claiming this happened are trying to put blame on something else that is their own fault. I've never had a firearm discharge without the trigger being pulled.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I would think in court they would have to prove that the firearm fired on its own. Hard to believe it could inside a holster.
I think those claiming this happened are trying to put blame on something else that is their own fault. I've never had a firearm discharge without the trigger being pulled.

Just wait, you will. If you are around guns enough, you know that they are merely mechanical devices and can fail at any time.

If the space shuttle can go up like a bottle rocket, twice, then your $500 piece of fantastic plastic can fail.

 

[DadSmith]

Just wait, you will. If you are around guns enough, you know that they are merely mechanical devices and can fail at any time.

If the space shuttle can go up like a bottle rocket, twice, then your $500 piece of fantastic plastic can fail.

I seen this awhile back on the P320 explaining how it works.

 

[Jaybird1980]

So it looks like Wisconsin is back to funding the Police.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I seen this awhile back on the P320 explaining how it works.

I didn't watch the video yet, but I have witnessed an early 320 being able to fire without the trigger being pulled. The guy would hit the back of the slide with a rubber mallet and it would fire with some regularity, so to me that would make it plausible it could fire if dropped.

I didn't see any mention in the article of when these discharges were supposed to occur. Was it in the holser?

 

[DadSmith]

I didn't watch the video yet, but I have witnessed an early 320 being able to fire without the trigger being pulled. The guy would hit the back of the slide with a rubber mallet and it would fire with some regularity, so to me that would make it plausible it could fire if dropped.

I didn't see any mention in the article of when these discharges we're supposed to occur. Was it in the holser?

My understanding in 2017 they fixed that issue. Or somewhere around their. This video is from a year ago, not sure if it is the updated version or a pre 2017. I would think if you had a pre 2017 you could send it in and get it fixed for free.