Why we have an ammo shortage.

[Mr. Habib]

Homeland Security is buying another 750,000,000 rounds to keep them out of civilian hands. The Israelis are buying all the ammo
they can to send to the Ukraine. Heard this at the ammo counter at Wal Mart this morning, so it must be true. Just thought you'd
all like an update.

 

[stephen87]

Thanks. If I hear anything around my local shop, I'll keep you informed as well.

 

[M67]

Holy freaking hell, can these conspiracies stop? It's the American consumers own damn fault that they can't find ammo. On certain calibers they're still in the "buy all I see whether I need it or not" mode

The government needs ammo. BIG shocker. The gun world seems to be turning into the hair salon gossip counter

 

[Mr. Habib]

Hey it must be true. That guy in line looked like a real operator. That is if real operators sleep in their clothes and don't bath for weeks at a time.

 

[femurphy77]

Hey it must be true. That guy in line looked like a real operator. That is if real operators sleep in their clothes and don't bath for weeks at a time.

Must have been deep cover, real moles are undetectable.

Except for the hump in the yard where their tunnels are!

 

[Sheepdog Gear]

Hey it must be true. That guy in line looked like a real operator. That is if real operators sleep in their clothes and don't bath for weeks at a time.

Ha! If you're talking some operators overseas, this may be true.

 

[Sgtusmc]

There seems to be a movement that holds the belief that .22LR will win the next home front war. Next up should be a movie (ala RED DAWN) how a small band of resistance conquers the tyranny using only .22 caliber weapons.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Ok, we've got a smelly guy at Wal-Mart, it's being discussed at INGO. If we can cross-check this with anonymous blog posts I think we can confirm the conspiracy.

Serious note: rumors thrive in an information vacuum.

 

[N8RV]

There seems to be a movement that holds the belief that .22LR will win the next home front war. Next up should be a movie (ala RED DAWN) how a small band of resistance conquers the tyranny using only .22 caliber weapons.

That's just silly. How could there be any real resistance with empty .22 weapons? There's no ammo, remember? Duh.

No, what the movie would really be about is a resistance armed with double-barrel shotguns, with everyone firing warning blasts into the air, the pellets raining down on the attackers. Very effective, from what I've heard.

Semper fi.

 

[hookedonjeep]

While it is true that ammo has been scarce, my local Walmart had been out of 22lr for over a year. If they did get any in, it was gone before I ever saw it. That being said, they had quite a bit of CCI copper plated and LRN Blazer in stock yesterday, so of course I bought their self-imposed limit of 3 boxes of 22lr, and then also bought a bulk pack of 9mm. Pricing wasn't horrible - the CCI came in at $.125 / round, and the bulk pack WWB was $.275 / round, both prices after taxes. Had I bought the Blazer .22LR, the price would have been $.052 / round. Again, not stellar prices, but acceptable. The important things to realize here are: A. It was available at Walmart, not just the internet or my LGS. B. It was acceptably priced. C. When the sales guy finally showed up at the counter, a small line had formed of folks in shock that their ammo shelves were stocked with calibers ranging from .22 through 5.56, 9mm, .40, .45, 7.62x39, and even 7.62x51; and there were no riots to purchase more than the limit - all were civil!

I don't want to get too excited - maybe yesterday was a fluke. Maybe it was as simple as all of the planets were in alignment, and I was destined to finally get some reasonably priced ammo. Who knows, only time will tell. I am, however, strangely more optimistic than usual as a result, and hope the trend continues!

 

[funeralweb]

Perhaps, but as soon as DHS gets to 50 forum posts, the market will be ripe for buyers.

 

[Sgtusmc]

The .22LR shortage is due to:

1. The hoarders 'know' that bullets will be the new economy
2. The hoarders want to supply their neighbors to form their own private army's
3. The hoarders want to go down in history as 'generals' to the resistance
4. There's no such thing as a hoarder, just guys who want to sit on millions of rounds.

 

[IndyT0m]

Homeland Security is buying another 750,000,000 rounds to keep them out of civilian hands. The Israelis are buying all the ammo
they can to send to the Ukraine. Heard this at the ammo counter at Wal Mart this morning, so it must be true. Just thought you'd
all like an update.

Homeland security are idiots. If they were smart they would buy up all the ammo they can and pass it out for FREE to all the law abiding citizens in order to defend themselves against the ever increase in Homicides and violent crimes.
I guess our Government figures they can't make us give up our guns so they do the next best thing. Make it difficult and very expensive to purchase ammunition for our guns. Very clever. I guess we have to keep buying the crap that
Russia sells and clean our guns more often.

 

[IndyT0m]

There seems to be a movement that holds the belief that .22LR will win the next home front war. Next up should be a movie (ala RED DAWN) how a small band of resistance conquers the tyranny using only .22 caliber weapons.

Don't discount the 22LR. The Mafia swears by it. and they learned from the Japanese.

 

[pudly]

Serious note: rumors thrive in an information vacuum.

Maybe this will help to alleviate that problem a little:

US Gun Production: Source 2007 and Source 2012

2007:

4,421,803

2012:

8,578,610

NICS checks: Source

2007:

11,177,335

2012:

21,093,273

NFA Firearms Processed: Source

2007:

563,127

2012:

1,112,041

 

[drillsgt]

Except for .22 I see ammo everywhere now, places have 5.56 in abundance, all brands. And guess what it's still sitting there in abundance because dealers haven't figured out that the panic for it is over. When you still see the independence, USA, and even some of the steel case stuff at 10-12 dollars a box/20 it's not going to fly off the shelves. The best I have seen lately is 9.00 a box which is still .40 cents a round for cheap 5.56. It may be that .40/round may be the best it's going to get now. I know pre-panic the best I ever found was .30/round at local stores when Gander used to sell those 100 packs of AE at 29.99 but then those went to 39.99 and back to standard price of 49.99. I think those now are around 60.00/box.

 

[BE Mike]

My take on it is that there are a lot of new gun owners who can't hit anything with a firearm. They just make noise and waste a lot of ammo. If they could hit what they were aiming at, they wouldn't need to buy so much ammo.

 

[Sgtusmc]

Don't discount the 22LR. The Mafia swears by it. and they learned from the Japanese.

I don't think anybody discounts the viability of the 22 in certain situations. It's easy to silence. Fighting a force that has you in sight from miles away using drones and thermal imaging is a different strategy that Mafia tactics would most likely falter against though.

 

[HoughMade]

Personally, I enjoy shooting .22LR so much that every time I see any on shelves, can find it with my WalMart/Cabelas/Gander Mountain contact network, or find it online, I buy as much as they have. I mean, I don't actually shoot any of it...that would be silly....but I like the idea of having what, 15 months ago, I would have considered a 10 year supply, on hand at all times.

Y'know I have to look out for myself with the government causing this ammo shortage.

 

[ilikeguns]

12.5 cents a round is acceptable?! No way will I pay that for .22. Even gander sells cci at 8 cents for cci. As far as the continuing shortage, I'm sure flippers have a part in it but also guys like me don't help.lol. I never kept a stock of ammo. I would keep a box or two and when I soot it I would go buy another box. After a summer of being unable to shoot and my kids being unable to shoot,I started buying it whenever I saw it att reasonable prices. I now have around 5000 rounds. All bought during this shortage, commercially, at prices of 8 cents a round or less. You get a bunch of guys like me who got the wake up call too late finally changing their ways, and the shortage is understandable.