Why Does Communist China Have One of the Lowest COVID Rates?

[hoosierdoc]

What did the guy on the motorcyle die of?

He died of a motorcycle crash.

But he had covid and died. 99.99% of the covid deaths are not instances where they are shot or a motorcycle wreck and die. That's better explained by a rigid reporting system than intentional obfuscation.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Right??? This article said it cost $3450 at their facility.

It's like having a test that tells you want kind of bug but you and caused thag little bump.

Overuse of Respiratory Viral Panel PCRs on Inpatient Medicine | HVPA

hvpaa.org

Conspiracy!!!!!!!

 

[Alpo]

What did the guy on the motorcyle die of?

Suzuki Syndrome

 

[BigRed]

He died of a motorcycle crash.

But he had covid and died. 99.99% of the covid deaths are not instances where they are shot or a motorcycle wreck and die. That's better explained by a rigid reporting system than intentional obfuscation.

Nonetheless, his death was classified as "due to covid".

Rigid reporting system and obfuscation both lead to an inflation of the numbers. That is my observation and the point of this example.

It is not good.

ETA: Is it true that over 98% of covid cases are not deadly?

 

[BigRed]

Suzuki Syndrome

Holy crap! Now we have. Japanese variant of the Chinese virus.... SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN!

 

[hoosierdoc]

Suzuki Syndrome

Kawasaki disease is a thing

 

[hoosierdoc]

Nonetheless, his death was classified as "due to covid".

Rigid reporting system and obfuscation both lead to an inflation of the numbers. That is my observation and the point of this example.

It is not good.

ETA: Is it true that over 98% of covid cases are not deadly?

I bet more than 99.9% of covid cases are not fatal.

What we need to accept is a lot of people have died of covid who were going to die soon anyway. That doesn't mean the virus is any less nasty. It means they were the low hanging fruit.

What it does is decrease the overall impact of the pandemic when measured as years of life expectancy lost. COVID originally was very mild as worldwide pandemics go regarding overall years of life lost.

In fact diarrhea in Africa EVERY YEAR probably takes more years of life expectancy than covid has since its inception.

But who does anything about diarrhea in Africa?

 

[BigRed]

And who does any analysis regarding the opportinity costs and "unintended" consequences of state's response to this latest virus?

 

[chocktaw2]

I bet more than 99.9% of covid cases are not fatal.

What we need to accept is a lot of people have died of covid who were going to die soon anyway. That doesn't mean the virus is any less nasty. It means they were the low hanging fruit.

What it does is decrease the overall impact of the pandemic when measured as years of life expectancy lost. COVID originally was very mild as worldwide pandemics go regarding overall years of life lost.

In fact diarrhea in Africa EVERY YEAR probably takes more years of life expectancy than covid has since its inception.

But who does anything about diarrhea in Africa?

So true, good post.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Kawasaki disease is a thing

As a Kawasaki owner, I believe this.

 

[hoosierdoc]

And who does any analysis regarding the opportinity costs and "unintended" consequences of state's response to this latest virus?

That will take some time to sort out. Overdose deaths are way up.

This is an interesting study looking at 2008 recession. I suspect the impact of covid shutdown will far exceed what this saw from 2008 recession

Global economic downturn linked with at least 260,000 excess cancer deaths

For immediate release: May 25, 2016 Boston, MA ─ The economic crisis of 2008-10, and the rise in unemployment that accompanied it, was associated with more than 260,000 excess cancer-related deaths…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

 

[chocktaw2]

As a Kawasaki owner, I believe this.

A friend had a KZ900. Bad machines.

 

[Alpo]

What it does is decrease the overall impact of the pandemic when measured as years of life expectancy lost.

Thanks for that thought.

Excellent.

 

[Chewie]

Kawasaki disease is a thing

True, but generally speaking it only causes financial irritation. Kind of like going to a doctor!

 

[Alpo]

As a Kawasaki owner, I believe this.

"Hey, watch this." isn't a symptom. But it may be genetic.

 

[BigRed]

That will take some time to sort out. Overdose deaths are way up.

This is an interesting study looking at 2008 recession. I suspect the impact of covid shutdown will far exceed what this saw from 2008 recession

Global economic downturn linked with at least 260,000 excess cancer deaths

For immediate release: May 25, 2016 Boston, MA ─ The economic crisis of 2008-10, and the rise in unemployment that accompanied it, was associated with more than 260,000 excess cancer-related deaths…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Out of curiosity, do you have an opinion on whether or not stats regarding this latest virus have been manipulated?

 

[hoosierdoc]

Out of curiosity, do you have an opinion on whether or not stats regarding this latest virus have been manipulated?

Which stats in particular? We are seeing a ton of covid still, but last few days have been my lowest in two months. It is usually the younger people (30-40s)

I have only admitted ONE vaccinated person who had covid, and that was because she had renal failure due to the diarrhea and her medications. She was 80. Was breathing fine.

We need to stop testing asymptomatic people. We are detecting virus but not disease in soooo many of them.

COVID pneumonia can kill people. COVID positivity... Who cares. If you simply have a cold, who cares about that case, other than to terrify everyone.

I admitted a 33yo girl today on day ten of her illness. Oxygen was borderline but she was so weak she kept falling. X-ray looked bad, but at day 10 unlikely to get much worse.

 

[BigRed]

Which stats in particular? We are seeing a ton of covid still, but last few days have been my lowest in two months. It is usually the younger people (30-40s)

I have only admitted ONE vaccinated person who had covid, and that was because she had renal failure due to the diarrhea and her medications. She was 80. Was breathing fine.

We need to stop testing asymptomatic people. We are detecting virus but not disease in soooo many of them.

COVID pneumonia can kill people. COVID positivity... Who cares. If you simply have a cold, who cares about that case, other than to terrify everyone.

I admitted a 33yo girl today on day ten of her illness. Oxygen was borderline but she was so weak she kept falling. X-ray looked bad, but at day 10 unlikely to get much worse.

Let me try to clarify my question....Do you have an opinion on whether or not stats regarding this latest virus have been manipulated for political purposes?

 

[tv1217]

I seem to remember China was also literally welding the doors shut on apartment complexes in the early days of Covid

 

[Tombs]

When you think ending poverty is as simple as lowering the bar until no one qualifies as being in poverty, it's pretty easy to claim the least amount of covid cases.