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  • cedartop

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    Dry fire match style drills tonight. Putting the barrels closer together or farther apart can radically change how you approach it.
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    PS, I don't shoot it from that view, the direction I point the gun is wide open, just in case strict safety protocols fail.
     

    cedartop

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    It is getting close to that time where I run out of daylight going in the evenings. Started with the Baer Solutions warm up drill target 1 at 5 yards. As is often the case I lacked the patience to clean the 1 inch squares missing 2 SHO and 2 WHO. Other than that clean.

    I then ran the 99 drill with no modifications to get a baseline. I ran it with my IDPA gear. Walther Q5, OWB holster, vest concealment. I made my par times tonight, though just barely at the first stage. Truth be told I was like a 2.51 and 2.52 on a couple but am letting them slide. I dropped 3 shots at stage 1. 4 at 2, 6 at 3 and 1 at 4. I guess that gives me a 85. The bad thing is, on those later stages I didn't have to drop any as I had plenty of time on the clock. The good news is I felt really connected tonight and was aware of everything. It was one of those things were time sorta slows down. I have had that happen in matches before a few years back when I was getting pretty good but had not experienced it since coming back from my layoff. Hopefully this is a good sign of things to come.

    Bowing to peer pressure and common sense I finally video taped myself tonight. Oh my word do I look slow. Hopefully I will be able to incorporate this and make it work for me.
     

    gregkl

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    I then ran the 99 drill with no modifications to get a baseline. I ran it with my IDPA gear. Walther Q5, OWB holster, vest concealment. I made my par times tonight, though just barely at the first stage. Truth be told I was like a 2.51 and 2.52 on a couple but am letting them slide. I dropped 3 shots at stage 1. 4 at 2, 6 at 3 and 1 at 4. I guess that gives me a 85. The bad thing is, on those later stages I didn't have to drop any as I had plenty of time on the clock. The good news is I felt really connected tonight and was aware of everything. It was one of those things were time sorta slows down. I have had that happen in matches before a few years back when I was getting pretty good but had not experienced it since coming back from my layoff. Hopefully this is a good sign of things to come.

    Bowing to peer pressure and common sense I finally video taped myself tonight. Oh my word do I look slow. Hopefully I will be able to incorporate this and make it work for me.
    I'm going to buy a tripod phone bracket so I can set my phone on my tripod and do some video recording. I am hoping to find all kinds of areas to work on.
     

    backtrail540

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    Gen 5 19 and holosun 407c today from an enigma under closed front concealment.

    I ran the Pistol IQ as a cold test again. I was messing with some numbers and compared times on other drills with similar tests to get an idea of my top edge performance wise and figured I could clean it and make Master if I did my part.

    On the half test I planted four around the 10 ring but then got lazy/overconfident and got lax on my grip and press, dropping one right into the 8 ring for a 48 in 4.82. On the draw two I had two A's in 1.64 which was a 1.39 after bonus. Bill had a clean raw time of 2.32 so 2.07 after bonus. The transition was 2.33 (2.08 after bonus) which is good considering that the point of the blake drill is to get your transitions on close targets close to your bill times and i shot it as if I was doing a blake. No complaint there. The throttle section felt slow at 3.99 but the 3.74 bonus corrected time was .03 better than my last run. Not as big of an iprovement as the other strings but improvement no less.

    Final score hitfactor forumla looked like (24+7.19+14.49+14.42+8.02)*2=136.24 or Master using Riley's chart.

    The key difference was in how I approached it this time. Last time I was shooting A's without accepting C's as only A's get points scoring scared me into being conservative. After playing with the numbers and realizing I could do accept a C and push toward my upper end and still come out well I decided to do just that and shot for A's instead of simply shooting A's. The result speaks for itself and is one of the reasons that scoring drills different ways can be beneficial. Reminds me of a an old gabe white drill where you shoot the same drill 4 times but with different scoring on each run and see how your approach changes.

    I finished with a battery of drills that I like to run occasionally based off of DockGKR's 20 hits drill. In original form it is draw two to a 3x5 as many times as it takes to get 20 hits on the card. Record your time for each string and your score is your aggregate. So on the face of it, if you get both hits each string then you do ten reps of draw 2. But if you miss once you have to do another string to make up that hit, adding a whole run time wise to your aggregate. If you miss twice you can make up both in that one string assuming you shoot it clean but if you miss 3 then that's another additional string, as you can only shoot two per string, and must shoot two per string despite only needing one makeup. In my version I simply run it as a three test battery with the first being the orginal 20 hits to a 3x5, the next being 20 hits to an 8" circle, then a final set of 20 hits to an 8" circle SHO. I score each version seperately and keep track of my average of the ten runs. It is nice to use this when comparing different guns, though I shoot most within a tenth of the others for averages.

    20 hits 3x5 -
    1. 2.09(2 hits) 2. 2.04(1 hit) 3. 2.09(1 hit) 4. 2.15(2 hits) 5. 2.04(2 hits) 6. 2.11(2 hits) 7. 2.12(2 hits)
    8. 1.98(2 hits) 9. 2.10(2 hits) 10. 2.33(2 hits) 11.2.01(2 hits)

    Total time - 23.06 (Fastest agg of the year) Average time - 2.09 (2nd best average of the year)

    20 hits 8" -
    1. 1.65(2 hits) 2. 1.65(2 hits) 3. 1.64(2 hits) 4. 1.5(2 hits) 5. 1.52(2 hits) 6. 1.54(2 hits) 7. 1.41(2 hits)
    8. 1.63(2 hits) 9. 1.95(1 hit...DOH!!!) 10. 1.96(2 hits) 11. 1.52(2 hits)

    Total time - 17.97 (2nd fastest agg) Average time - 1.63 (Fastest average of the year)

    20 hits 8" SHO -
    1. 2.78(1 hit) 2. 3.02(2 hits) 3. 2.8(2 hits) 4. 2.4(2 hits) 5. 2.5(2 hits) 6. 2.48(2 hits) 7. 2.43(2 hits)
    8. 2.42(2 hits) 9. 2.41(2 hits) 10. 2.79(2 hits) 11. 2.49(2 hits)

    Total time - 28.52 (about 3 seconds slower than usual, generally shoot clean but had 1 makeup here) Average time - 2.59 (approximately .06 slower than normal)


    I think this is a great battery of drills that is pretty universal as it has no floor or ceiling. If you can safely draw a gun freestyle and sho then you can track your performance over time and get some solid data in the process. Like the 99 it has value in repetition vs a one and done test. This allows you to analyze what you're doing, make changes as necessary, and burn in the change a few times before moving on. It has 3 core skills that I value - drawing to a low percentage target plus follow up and recoil control, drawing to a high percentage target plus follow up and recoil control, and a strong hand only draw to a high percentage target with follow up and recoil control.

    I've got data on this drill going back to 2019 on the 3x5 variant and have whittled away about 5 seconds off my agg and about .5 from the average as an overall. Consistency has improved as well as I achieve 20 hits in less strings than when I started tracking 4 years ago. I always enjoy running this but feel i've reached a point where I need to ratchet down a fair amount of dry practice to really make much more in gains. It is easy enough to do it where i am today and hold it within a two second window and a few tenths average but to knock out more significant performance I need to really trim the fat on my drawstroke and recoil control. I'm just not in a spot where I am allowing that sort of dry practice time to happen so I'll have to accept it as it is for now.
     

    cedartop

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    Gen 5 19 and holosun 407c today from an enigma under closed front concealment.

    I ran the Pistol IQ as a cold test again. I was messing with some numbers and compared times on other drills with similar tests to get an idea of my top edge performance wise and figured I could clean it and make Master if I did my part.

    On the half test I planted four around the 10 ring but then got lazy/overconfident and got lax on my grip and press, dropping one right into the 8 ring for a 48 in 4.82. On the draw two I had two A's in 1.64 which was a 1.39 after bonus. Bill had a clean raw time of 2.32 so 2.07 after bonus. The transition was 2.33 (2.08 after bonus) which is good considering that the point of the blake drill is to get your transitions on close targets close to your bill times and i shot it as if I was doing a blake. No complaint there. The throttle section felt slow at 3.99 but the 3.74 bonus corrected time was .03 better than my last run. Not as big of an iprovement as the other strings but improvement no less.

    Final score hitfactor forumla looked like (24+7.19+14.49+14.42+8.02)*2=136.24 or Master using Riley's chart.

    The key difference was in how I approached it this time. Last time I was shooting A's without accepting C's as only A's get points scoring scared me into being conservative. After playing with the numbers and realizing I could do accept a C and push toward my upper end and still come out well I decided to do just that and shot for A's instead of simply shooting A's. The result speaks for itself and is one of the reasons that scoring drills different ways can be beneficial. Reminds me of a an old gabe white drill where you shoot the same drill 4 times but with different scoring on each run and see how your approach changes.

    I finished with a battery of drills that I like to run occasionally based off of DockGKR's 20 hits drill. In original form it is draw two to a 3x5 as many times as it takes to get 20 hits on the card. Record your time for each string and your score is your aggregate. So on the face of it, if you get both hits each string then you do ten reps of draw 2. But if you miss once you have to do another string to make up that hit, adding a whole run time wise to your aggregate. If you miss twice you can make up both in that one string assuming you shoot it clean but if you miss 3 then that's another additional string, as you can only shoot two per string, and must shoot two per string despite only needing one makeup. In my version I simply run it as a three test battery with the first being the orginal 20 hits to a 3x5, the next being 20 hits to an 8" circle, then a final set of 20 hits to an 8" circle SHO. I score each version seperately and keep track of my average of the ten runs. It is nice to use this when comparing different guns, though I shoot most within a tenth of the others for averages.

    20 hits 3x5 -
    1. 2.09(2 hits) 2. 2.04(1 hit) 3. 2.09(1 hit) 4. 2.15(2 hits) 5. 2.04(2 hits) 6. 2.11(2 hits) 7. 2.12(2 hits)
    8. 1.98(2 hits) 9. 2.10(2 hits) 10. 2.33(2 hits) 11.2.01(2 hits)

    Total time - 23.06 (Fastest agg of the year) Average time - 2.09 (2nd best average of the year)

    20 hits 8" -
    1. 1.65(2 hits) 2. 1.65(2 hits) 3. 1.64(2 hits) 4. 1.5(2 hits) 5. 1.52(2 hits) 6. 1.54(2 hits) 7. 1.41(2 hits)
    8. 1.63(2 hits) 9. 1.95(1 hit...DOH!!!) 10. 1.96(2 hits) 11. 1.52(2 hits)

    Total time - 17.97 (2nd fastest agg) Average time - 1.63 (Fastest average of the year)

    20 hits 8" SHO -
    1. 2.78(1 hit) 2. 3.02(2 hits) 3. 2.8(2 hits) 4. 2.4(2 hits) 5. 2.5(2 hits) 6. 2.48(2 hits) 7. 2.43(2 hits)
    8. 2.42(2 hits) 9. 2.41(2 hits) 10. 2.79(2 hits) 11. 2.49(2 hits)

    Total time - 28.52 (about 3 seconds slower than usual, generally shoot clean but had 1 makeup here) Average time - 2.59 (approximately .06 slower than normal)


    I think this is a great battery of drills that is pretty universal as it has no floor or ceiling. If you can safely draw a gun freestyle and sho then you can track your performance over time and get some solid data in the process. Like the 99 it has value in repetition vs a one and done test. This allows you to analyze what you're doing, make changes as necessary, and burn in the change a few times before moving on. It has 3 core skills that I value - drawing to a low percentage target plus follow up and recoil control, drawing to a high percentage target plus follow up and recoil control, and a strong hand only draw to a high percentage target with follow up and recoil control.

    I've got data on this drill going back to 2019 on the 3x5 variant and have whittled away about 5 seconds off my agg and about .5 from the average as an overall. Consistency has improved as well as I achieve 20 hits in less strings than when I started tracking 4 years ago. I always enjoy running this but feel i've reached a point where I need to ratchet down a fair amount of dry practice to really make much more in gains. It is easy enough to do it where i am today and hold it within a two second window and a few tenths average but to knock out more significant performance I need to really trim the fat on my drawstroke and recoil control. I'm just not in a spot where I am allowing that sort of dry practice time to happen so I'll have to accept it as it is for now.
    Good shooting on the IQ. So the main difference between this time and last time was just in how you approached the drill?

    That other drill from Doc looks good. I like that it has a SHO component.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    Receiving some remote coaching, worked on 3 shot strings from 7y at a .35 split.

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    Glock 17M
     

    cedartop

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    I am trying to really ratchet down and live fire only what is necessary and to large extent what I am bad at. I need to shoot more, but ammo is not coming down and we are now paying for a child in college, sooo, I am dry firing daily and in some cases it has made a significant difference. We will get to that.

    Up first was the Elanor drill from Sage Dynamics. This is a tough drill for me and hits things that we should always be looking to improve. Time to draw and hit a small target, transition, and recoil control. Out of 10 runs I had a number of misses and didn't make the par time once. I averaged about 2.60 seconds, so not that far off. As you can see. at 3 yards dot offset definitely comes into play as well.

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    After this I moved on to a current staple the Spaulding 9 in 9 drill. I have been working on components of this in various stages dry fire and noticed big improvements in my time. I was eager to see if they could be replicated in live fire. I was pleased to see they were. Out of 4 runs all of them were under 10 seconds with only a few close misses. 9 seconds may actually happen at some point. Most of time improvement has come from paying attention to the details, especially to make sure that as I fire the 3rd shot I am already moving. Maybe just a weight shift or shoulder dip, but already on the way to the next position. You cant just stand, fire 3 shots and then decide to move and still make the time.

    Next up was the Hackathorn 3 second Head Standards. This is a good way for me to get a lot of reps on transitions with out being super high round count. I ran this 7 times and had 1 miss total and all strings were 3 seconds or under. My fastest string was a 2.58. This is for sure something I still need to work on and I will be upping my transition practice in dry fire. It is something I used to do a lot of.

    I ended with a 10 round run at a B-8 at 25. Unfortunately emotion killed me on this one. I was seven rounds in and still all in the black so I got a little excited. 8th shot was just into the white. This bummed me out and I threw the 9th into the 7 and then finished with another into the black. Until I can get that sorted, it will be tough to make an all black run, let a lone a 100.
     
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    gregkl

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    Just curious, what is "PF"?

    Oh, and I didn't make it to the range this weekend. Was supposed to go to a shoot on Saturday and it got cancelled and today I was at a memorial. I thought I could get up early enough to make deviled eggs, stop at the range on the way but I was wrong.

    Took me much longer than I thought to make those eggs! No wonder they call them "deviled" eggs. :)
     

    backtrail540

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    Good shooting on the IQ. So the main difference between this time and last time was just in how you approached the drill?

    That other drill from Doc looks good. I like that it has a SHO component.

    Good shooting on the IQ. So the main difference between this time and last time was just in how you approached the drill?

    That other drill from Doc looks good. I like that it has a SHO component.
    For the most part yes. Last time I shot very conservatively because I wanted to guarantee A's, thinking that the penalty for not getting points would be worse than the added time. This time I let loose because after doing the math and playing with numbers I realized I could afford to let loose and accept a C and it would still pay off with a better score as long as I was shooting at the edge of my ability.

    I used my numbers from the Gabe White tests for the bill drill for instance. On Gabe's drill I can afford to have a C because the concealment bonus compensates for it but I have to be at the top of my performance envelope to make it worth it so it's the same concept. There a 2.2x-2.3x is about all i can put down so I used those numbers when playing with the calculator to see what my potential would be. Because of blakes and triple nickel's I knew I could get my transitions close to that time so they plugged in to the transition time for potential. I run a high% version of the 99 drill using an A zone and a 1.75 par for three shots, based on past performance I knew I have been able to make 2 in 1.5 when pushing fairly regularly so that was the goal in mind on the d2. I really just gamed it out based on numbers from my performance tracking spreadsheets and pushed to achieve those times. This required me to accept C's in my mind vs only shooting A's and that's where my approach differed.


    On the DocGKR drill, his version is just the 3x5 version. Just for clarification sake. I didn't want to accidentally attribute anything to him that he wasn't responsible for as I don't know that he would approve etc... The high % strings are my additions.
     

    cedartop

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    Just curious, what is "PF"?

    Oh, and I didn't make it to the range this weekend. Was supposed to go to a shoot on Saturday and it got cancelled and today I was at a memorial. I thought I could get up early enough to make deviled eggs, stop at the range on the way but I was wrong.

    Took me much longer than I thought to make those eggs! No wonder they call them "deviled" eggs. :)
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