Vaccines and stuff: Pt 2

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Pivot on these while you can, Trump.

 

[jamil]

I believe that Trump championing treatments for those already ill with covid, as well as backing a program to quickly get a vaccine, that his advisors were telling him would stop the disease in its tracks, in record time was because he could see that the alternative would shatter the US economy as well as the fact that he genuinely cares for Americans (at least the patriotic ones) and America

With your usual schtick, I'm surprised you don't also blame him for causing the deaths of people who were ventilated because that was later found to generate a worse outcome for the patient - after all, he pushed for the manufacture of ventilators that blue state governors claimed they needed.

With my usual shtick? My usual shtick is to say what I think reality is. I don't say things to defend a image I want to maintain. I don't blame Trump for what happened with ventilators. He was told by the experts that they need ventilators. He admirably got them ventilators really quick. That turned out to be the wrong thing. But like I said elsewhere, Trump is a real estate guy. Not a medical guy. He has to listen to his advisors.

I do find a reasonable cause to blame him for operation warp speed, at least a little. He clearly understood the concept of making sure the cure isn't worse than the disease. That's a fair criticism.

But, now that we know how ****ed up the vaccines turned out to be, it's hard to justify a claim that he's saved millions of lives with operation warp speed. It did no such thing. But you guys seem quite willing to reverse your beliefs about that. It's as if, because Trump says he saved people, well, he can't be wrong, so he must have.

It's really pretty much the same thing, he provided the help he was told was needed and is now being dragged because he won't take responsibility for the damage caused by the vaccines. So, tell me, who is responsible for the fact the vaccines were poorly tested, ineffective and dangerous - Trump or Pfizer?

He doesn't need to take full responsibility for the damage done. If he said it's not his fault, that he was just doing what his advisors said, but admitted that in hindsight, the vaccines turned out not so great, I'd accept that. Instead, he's showing that he has no awareness about this at all. I suspect that he can't bring himself to negating the claim he wants to make, that he saved the world from COVID. You can't admit the truth if you're too busy claiming the lie for your own personal benefit. That's just another thing that tends to disqualify him.

 

[printcraft]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Regulatory filings date stamped from April 2021 show Pfizer had strong evidence that its vaccine’s efficacy waned – results the company did not publicly release until the end of July.

“It’s clear from the documents that these analyses were almost four months old by the time they became public,” said Doshi.

“It’s disappointing that neither Pfizer, nor regulators, disclosed these data until it was too obvious to ignore new outbreaks in Israel and Massachusetts, which made it clear that vaccine performance was not holding up.”

When mRNA vaccines were first authorised in 2020, FDA scientists had listed critical ‘gaps’ in the knowledge base. Two of them -- effectiveness against viral transmission and duration of protection.

Pfizer hid data on waning immunity as millions queued to get vaccinated.

New regulatory filings show Pfizer had evidence, early into the vaccination campaign, that its vaccine’s efficacy waned, but waited months before alerting the public.

maryannedemasi.substack.com

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Saving for later.

The Medicare records clearly show the vaccines are killing people

The CDC could instantly make the death-vax records in Medicare public. But they won't. I'm going to show you why in this article in a way everyone can understand.

stevekirsch.substack.com

 

[Shadow01]

I prefer that it has gone down this way. The drug industry as a whole has zero credibility. The CDC has zero credibility. The medical institutions including doctors and nurses have no credibility. The government has no credibility.

it is up to each of these to put forth the effort on their time and their dime to earn my trust. I don’t believe there’s enough time for that. I can honestly call each of them liars for the rest of my life and not be incorrect.

 

[Magyars]

 

[manifest destiny]

He doesn't need to take full responsibility for the damage done. If he said it's not his fault, that he was just doing what his advisors said, but admitted that in hindsight, the vaccines turned out not so great, I'd accept that. Instead, he's showing that he has no awareness about this at all. I suspect that he can't bring himself to negating the claim he wants to make, that he saved the world from COVID. You can't admit the truth if you're too busy claiming the lie for your own personal benefit. That's just another thing that tends to disqualify him.

Is there a possibility that he's still getting counsel from those around him claiming the vax is safe and effective? I mean, it is the "accepted" point of view still.

 

[oze]

I'm kinda like mild-mannered reporter, Jimmy Olsen, both nope, not this time. **** that.

 

[jamil]

Regulatory filings date stamped from April 2021 show Pfizer had strong evidence that its vaccine’s efficacy waned – results the company did not publicly release until the end of July.

“It’s clear from the documents that these analyses were almost four months old by the time they became public,” said Doshi.

“It’s disappointing that neither Pfizer, nor regulators, disclosed these data until it was too obvious to ignore new outbreaks in Israel and Massachusetts, which made it clear that vaccine performance was not holding up.”

When mRNA vaccines were first authorised in 2020, FDA scientists had listed critical ‘gaps’ in the knowledge base. Two of them -- effectiveness against viral transmission and duration of protection.

Pfizer hid data on waning immunity as millions queued to get vaccinated.

New regulatory filings show Pfizer had evidence, early into the vaccination campaign, that its vaccine’s efficacy waned, but waited months before alerting the public.

maryannedemasi.substack.com

Meantime, the narrative was that people who claimed the vaccine was not effective were called conspiracy theorists and lunatics.

 

[bobzilla]

Meantime, the narrative was that people who claimed the vaccine was not effective were called conspiracy theorists and lunatics.

and don't forget natural immunity wouldn't last more than a couple months.

Oh wait, another ingo'r told us that all this was fake news.

 

[tim87tr]

So there's a second scamdemic announced that is already viewed as fake but Covid and the first one is real?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

There’s so much news churning out there everyday that this man-made catastrophe will likely never get the attention it deserves an the justice its victims deserve.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[Ingomike]

Swiss Government Temporarily Halts Vaccinations Against Covid-19 Including for High-Risk Individuals

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[KLB]

I can't stand Blue Cross.

 

[rhamersley]

 

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