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    Ingomike

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    Oh brother, knock that CRAP off. "Big Pharma" makes a LOT of medicines that save lives. If YOU don`t want to take your heart medicine, or any other life saving medicine, feel free. But knock off the ignorant attacks on pharmaceutical companies. It`s old and it`s dumbass.

    Oh brother knock that crap off. "Big pharma" is not the benign benevolent corporations of the past. They are international globalists working in a global market.

    And yes, they do produce life saving drugs, this vaccine isn't one of them, they also get caught and fined massive amounts for wrong doing, proving the point.

    To think otherwise is old and its dumba**...
     

    tbhausen

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    My bad... apologies... I glanced and saw July 1 and 29th and assumed you were using the month of July... now that I read closer, you offset by 4 weeks, which, IMO, is pretty reasonable nominal time offset for a ballpark, especially since you're using the 7-day average.

    The actual CFR would require tracking individuals and their individual outcomes to final resolution, recovery or death.

    BUT, I think using the 4-6 week offset on 7 day averaged data should be a pretty good first order approximation.


    Thanks for summarizing... I've not dug into data from quite sometime... really since March/April.

    And, IMO, to compare "severity" of the delta variant to the plain old original, they would need to compare by age/health demographics of the unvaccinated... since last year and the very early part of this year, no one was.

    Really, the only thing I keep an ear out for is if/when the 40,000 in the Pfizer trial start getting severe COVID, needing hospitalization, or dying in numbers... until that happens, I'm fat, dumb and happy, lol! They've got a 6-8 month head start on me.

    And, yeah, I see little intrinsic value in the vaccinated wearing masks (unless you work/live with immuno-compromised who cannot take the vaccine). Another lockdown? Nah!

    FWIW, we've got tickets to concerts in Aug & Sept and looking for a third concert tour that was cancelled due to the lockdowns to resume touring.

    Is our government going to do this also?

    They also are using Australian military to enforce it.
    Having disarmed the populace will help in this effort.
     

    Leadeye

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    :scratch:

    Let me tell you what Big Pharma does. It invents things like chemo tharapy to treat cancer. That's awesome. It sometimes works. And gives people hope. But it has a lot of side effects that are really, really, really bad. So then along comes little pharma, to invent a new drug that drastically reduces the dosage of chemo necessary to kill some common types of cancer cells. That's great because then, side effects from the chemo aren't nearly as bad. It also allows some people who would not have been able to take the chemo otherwise, to be able to take it.

    But guess what? Big pharma WANTS to sell a lot of chemo. Because it's really expensive. And they make a lot of money. How they gonna make they dollars if some deranged small company goes and makes a little chemo go a long way? So they've been lobbying the FDA to drag their feet on approvals.

    Big pharma will **** you in the *** for pennies because even pennies in profit is profit. The crap that needs knocked off is the big pharma phallus admiration. Big pharma does a lot of good, but not out of the goodness of their hearts. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with making a buck on one's products. They're not your friends though. Well. Maybe they're YOUR friends, I dunno. Maybe you work for Big Pharma. That's all well and good. But they're not in business to be benevolent. They've been caught many times ****ing the public, like many big corps.

    Always follow the money
     

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    Got a text about this. It's from 1976 60 minutes show. History repeating itself.

    The more I think about this the more I think this video should be crammed up the media's ass to remind them what their role as journalists is supposed to be. Instead, the media is basically the full time propaganda wing of the DNC.
     

    phylodog

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    The more I think about this the more I think this video should be crammed up the media's ass to remind them what their role as journalists is supposed to be. Instead, the media is basically the full time propaganda wing of the DNC.
    Wouldn't change anything. They have no interest in the truth, they have no interest in preserving anything that doesn't jive with their socialist utopian ******** agenda that they can't wait to bitch and complain about once they get their way.

    If we're gonna start cramming stuff up the media's ass I have better ideas than a video. :cool:
     

    printcraft

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    I've heard a couple of times recently in the media... "developed by Trump" etc.
    As more and more stories of the vaccines not stopping outbreakes come out... what's the bet that they are laying the groundwork for:
    "The vaccine doesn't work, causes problems and worse viruses to appear, wear a mask, it's Trump and the Republicans fault."
     

    Ingomike

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    Not saying I want more government intervention, but something needs to be done. Right now, it's easy as hell to blow your life savings and go into huge debt just to have pretty common health issues resolved. Too many people get screwed over by the current system and this gives huge credence to those idiots who propose social medicine, you know, like all the other civilized countries have. I don't want that, but that's what gives that idea so much mileage. If we could address the issues so that people could afford healthcare without going into crippling debt, the idea of social medicine would be laughed at by most people. As it is, social medicine is embraced by people who otherwise would laugh at the idea, but there aren't any other good options being proposed.

    I get your sentiment here but anyone can buy the insurance coverage they want. No system can afford to cover everything for everyone, it must be rationed, the usual ways are to ration with wait times, as in socialized medicine, or price like in the US. There will never be enough medical care for everyone when they want it or at a price they like. Remember the HMO's? Everyone hated them, that is the socialized medicine style plan, that you could buy cheap.

    We as a society cannot afford the quality and speed of medical care we have in a socialized medicine program. In our current system there will always be those that not only loose their health, but also their wealth, when terrible things happen. It really is a very small percentage of the overall but we all know someone like that and it causes worry, but it is unavoidable for some that is the trade off for having a program that benefits most people.
     

    gregr

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    I get your sentiment here but anyone can buy the insurance coverage they want. No system can afford to cover everything for everyone, it must be rationed, the usual ways are to ration with wait times, as in socialized medicine, or price like in the US. There will never be enough medical care for everyone when they want it or at a price they like. Remember the HMO's? Everyone hated them, that is the socialized medicine style plan, that you could buy cheap.

    We as a society cannot afford the quality and speed of medical care we have in a socialized medicine program. In our current system there will always be those that not only loose their health, but also their wealth, when terrible things happen. It really is a very small percentage of the overall but we all know someone like that and it causes worry, but it is unavoidable for some that is the trade off for having a program that benefits most people.
    In my mind, the overarching principle HAS to be a free-market industry. There are ways to make what we have better and more available to more people, but government-run healthcare is a dead-end, and it`s been shown TOO many times to NOT work.
     

    wtburnette

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    In my mind, the overarching principle HAS to be a free-market industry. There are ways to make what we have better and more available to more people, but government-run healthcare is a dead-end, and it`s been shown TOO many times to NOT work.

    I think if we had an actual free market system for medicine, it would address the most egregious of the issues we have.
     
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