Uvalde Texas Killing

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Good. Now fire the sgt too and charge them both. Two people on that scene effectively stopped any chance of saving those kids by using their positions of authority to stop action.

Uvalde police chief fired for fumbled response to school shooting

Pete Arredondo defended the police response to the massacre in a 17-page letter that also lashed out at state officials

www.theguardian.com

 

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Two more DPS officers under investigation

2 more Texas DPS officers to be investigated over actions on day of Uvalde massacre

The Texas Department of Public Safety referred two more officers to the agency's Office of Inspector General late last week for formal investigation over their responses to the Robb Elementary massacre in Uvalde, a department spokesperson told CNN on Tuesday.

amp.cnn.com

 

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About ****ing time

Uvalde school district suspends entire police force, superintendent to retire amid fallout from shooting

The Uvalde, Texas, school district, announced the suspension of the entire district police force on Friday.

abcnews.go.com

 

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So uvalde hired a cop who was a DPS officer on scene who is under active investigation for their conduct at the shooting.

What’s wrong with these people

 

[BigRed]

So uvalde hired a cop who was a DPS officer on scene who is under active investigation for their conduct at the shooting.

What’s wrong with these people

 

[Ark]

EXCLUSIVE: New body camera video from Uvalde school tragedy

Sinclair San Antonio has obtained new body camera video of the Uvalde school tragedy that has never been seen by the public.

foxsanantonio.com

Some new body cam footage out today.

Lots of fear, uncertainty, and doubt on display. Nobody seems to have any idea what they're doing or what is expected of them.

 

[BigRed]

EXCLUSIVE: New body camera video from Uvalde school tragedy

Sinclair San Antonio has obtained new body camera video of the Uvalde school tragedy that has never been seen by the public.

foxsanantonio.com

Some new body cam footage out today.

Lots of fear, uncertainty, and doubt on display. Nobody seems to have any idea what they're doing or what is expected of them.

When push comes to shove, you and you alone are responsible for the protection of your loved ones, your property, and your self.

I doubt there is a single person that ran past these people to get their loved ones out regrets doing so today.

 

[Ark]

When push comes to shove, you and you alone are responsible for the protection of your loved ones, your property, and your self.

I doubt there is a single person that ran past these people to get their loved ones out regrets doing so today.

Seems like individuals make better decisions than groups. When shooters are stopped outright, it seems to always be one person acting alone in the moment, either armed citizens or the first one or two cops on the scene.

 

[BigRed]

Seems like individuals make better decisions than groups. When shooters are stopped outright, it seems to always be one person acting alone in the moment, either armed citizens or the first one or two cops on the scene.

Indeed. Same applies to most every matter.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Seems like individuals make better decisions than groups. When shooters are stopped outright, it seems to always be one person acting alone in the moment, either armed citizens or the first one or two cops on the scene.

Or at least have one person who is willing and able to take command, at Uvalde it seems there was no one that would. I saw body cam of an active shooter response there were 3-4 officers and the one just took command. You get behind that car and watch the windows, you cover that door, I got a rifle I'll go first.
https://www.ktvu.com/news/body-cam-video-shows-moment-officers-respond-to-vta-mass-shooting

 

[Ark]

Or at least have one person who is willing and able to take command, at Uvalde it seems there was no one that would. I saw body cam of an active shooter response there were 3-4 officers and the one just took command. You get behind that car and watch the windows, you cover that door, I got a rifle I'll go first.
https://www.ktvu.com/news/body-cam-video-shows-moment-officers-respond-to-vta-mass-shooting

Yep. I wonder how many cops who are otherwise like that were on scene just hanging around out of the false belief that the incident was over. Like the guys outside.

The people in the hallway outside the room have no excuse.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Yep. I wonder how many cops who are otherwise like that were on scene just hanging around out of the false belief that the incident was over. Like the guys outside.

The people in the hallway outside the room have no excuse.

From the new body cam footage that was released it seemed like at least some of the officers outside knew they should be going in, but didn't. I agree with you completely about the officers in the hall.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Dear God, the more of this s*** that comes out the more f****** p***** I get.

For God's sake, there were children dying in those rooms!!!

 

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[DoggyDaddy]

Uvalde mom sues police, gunmaker in school massacre​

Uvalde mom sues police, gunmaker in school massacre

The claim is part of a new and expanding legal front in the nationwide court battle over firearms.

www.wthr.com

 

[KellyinAvon]

This looks like a different suit. Filed in Federal Court.

Uvalde shooting victims seek $27B, class action in lawsuit​

Among those who filed the lawsuit are school staff and representatives of minors who were present at Robb Elementary when a gunman stormed the campus, killing 19 children and two teachers in the deadliest school shooting in the U.S. in nearly a decade.


Instead of following previous training to stop an active shooter “the conduct of the three hundred and seventy-six (376) law enforcement officials who were on hand for the exhaustively torturous seventy- seven minutes of law enforcement indecision, dysfunction, and harm, fell exceedingly short of their duty bound standards,” the lawsuit claims.

(I guess that depends on your definition of failure.)
Two officers have been fired because of their actions at the scene and others have resigned or been placed on leave. In October, Col. Steve McCraw, the head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, acknowledged mistakes by officers when confronted for the first time by families of the Uvalde victims over false and shifting accounts from law enforcement and lack of transparency in the available information. But McCraw defended his agency, saying they “did not fail” Uvalde.

Uvalde shooting victims seek $27B, class action in lawsuit

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Victims of the Uvalde school shooting that left 21 people dead have filed a lawsuit against local and state police, the city and other school and law enforcement officials seek…

fox59.com

 

[KLB]

Will be interesting to see how this one plays out. This goes back to whether police have an actual duty to protect people.

 

[Cameramonkey]

This looks like a different suit. Filed in Federal Court.

Uvalde shooting victims seek $27B, class action in lawsuit​

Among those who filed the lawsuit are school staff and representatives of minors who were present at Robb Elementary when a gunman stormed the campus, killing 19 children and two teachers in the deadliest school shooting in the U.S. in nearly a decade.


Instead of following previous training to stop an active shooter “the conduct of the three hundred and seventy-six (376) law enforcement officials who were on hand for the exhaustively torturous seventy- seven minutes of law enforcement indecision, dysfunction, and harm, fell exceedingly short of their duty bound standards,” the lawsuit claims.

(I guess that depends on your definition of failure.)
Two officers have been fired because of their actions at the scene and others have resigned or been placed on leave. In October, Col. Steve McCraw, the head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, acknowledged mistakes by officers when confronted for the first time by families of the Uvalde victims over false and shifting accounts from law enforcement and lack of transparency in the available information. But McCraw defended his agency, saying they “did not fail” Uvalde.

Uvalde shooting victims seek $27B, class action in lawsuit

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Victims of the Uvalde school shooting that left 21 people dead have filed a lawsuit against local and state police, the city and other school and law enforcement officials seek…

fox59.com

Did not fail?

That would be correct if we had a monument to the officers we lost trying to save the kids. But we don’t now, do we? So yeah. Y’all failed.

 

[jbombelli]

We'll see if they stick to Castle Rock v. Gonzales.

 

[jamil]

Will be interesting to see how this one plays out. This goes back to whether police have an actual duty to protect people.

Hopefully if no duty to protect is confirmed the court will at least establish that police cannot prevent citizens from protecting their own. If it’s not their jobs to protect then neither is it their jobs to hinder self/family preservation.