To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

[KLB]

Independent journalists, I guess that's what we call them, are a new kind of news media. I think the emergence thereof flew under the radar of the fourth estate. They've controlled narratives and framing for a very long time, and their powers are threatened by those outside the fourth estate. Youtube and other social media platoforms have enabled just about anyone to report news.

I think the event signaling that they finally figured it out was when the Wall Street Journal put out that hit piece on PewDiePie. Of course it had the Streisand effect and helped PewDiePie gain even more subscribers. But it served as an excuse for Youtube to crack down who gets advertising dollars. They haven't solved the problem yet. I think the strategy has changed to use the old and tired demonizing approach. They call it fake news. They call it conspiracy theories. But it still doesn't help them.

The fourth estate is dead if they'd just let if ****ing die. With social media there's no need for an official news. Over the last few years especially, they've proven themselves incapable of telling the truth. Might as well take our chances with rando independent news guy on youtube.

There were always independent journalists. The difference is in the past they had to sell stories to one of the publishers or broadcasts, where today they can deliver direct to the consumer.

 

[Shadow01]

Journalists is a term used in the past. It no longer applies or has a legitimate definition in the present or future.

 

[nonobaddog]

There were always independent journalists. The difference is in the past they had to sell stories to one of the publishers or broadcasts, where today they can deliver direct to the consumer.

A very limited few can actually deliver to many consumers because they have built up a following while others are only seen by their mothers.

 

[BugI02]

Might as well take our chances with rando independent news guy on YouTube. [INGO]

Fixy

 

[jamil]

Speaking of independent journalists...



It sounds like they're just trying to justify their mandates at this point. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence depending on what you're trying to justify. Let's put their consistency to the test.

"Oh," they say after randomized studies show no effect of masking communities vs not, "just because there's no evidence masks work doesn't mean they don't work at all. So on that slim chance they might work, let's make everyone from 2 years old on up wear masks and socially shame them if they don't!"

Okay. Now do Ivermectin.

It's Horse paste! There's no evidence it works! Shame those far right wing nutters!

Vinay Prasad has been taking some victory laps lately. Saying, basically, suck it, maskers. But he's earned it.

 

[Shadow01]

Speaking of independent journalists...



It sounds like they're just trying to justify their mandates at this point. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence depending on what you're trying to justify. Let's put their consistency to the test.

"Oh," they say after randomized studies show no effect of masking communities vs not, "just because there's no evidence masks work doesn't mean they don't work at all. So on that slim chance they might work, let's make everyone from 2 years old on up wear masks and socially shame them if they don't!"

Okay. Now do Ivermectin.

It's Horse paste! There's no evidence it works! Shame those far right wing nutters!

Vinay Prasad has been taking some victory laps lately. Saying, basically, suck it, maskers. But he's earned it.

if everyone would stop breathing permanently then there would be no need for mandates

 

[manifest destiny]

I think it's stop breathing suddenly and unexpected....

 

[terrehautian]

Interesting observation, the local hospital does not require them, my kidney doctor doesn’t either, but my family doctor is. At least it is somewhat with a purpose.

 

[KLB]

 

[DadSmith]

My local hospital now has given people the option to mask or not to mask finally.
I hope this filters to the local Dr offices.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Crazy eyes and cult members.

 

[manifest destiny]

^^ what's the word on the rainbow flag? Round, crown, grown??

 

[oze]

My local hospital now has given people the option to mask or not to mask finally.
I hope this filters to the local Dr offices.

Saw my cardiologist on Monday. It was like being transported back in time 3 years. Immediately upon clearing the revolving doors, I was yelled at by 2 separate registration people that I had to wear a mask. Like nasty. I saw that signs were up, stating that masking and social distancing rules will be enforced. I grabbed a paper mask from the counter, and did my part: 12' of separation between me and the person in front of me. Immature, yes, but it gave me a tiny bit of pleasure, and that's all that matters.

 

[printcraft]

^^ what's the word on the rainbow flag? Round, crown, grown??

I think is says "Groomer"

 

[printcraft]

Crazy eyes and cult members.

 

[Shadow01]

Saw my cardiologist on Monday. It was like being transported back in time 3 years. Immediately upon clearing the revolving doors, I was yelled at by 2 separate registration people that I had to wear a mask. Like nasty. I saw that signs were up, stating that masking and social distancing rules will be enforced. I grabbed a paper mask from the counter, and did my part: 12' of separation between me and the person in front of me. Immature, yes, but it gave me a tiny bit of pleasure, and that's all that matters.

Enforced? Physically? Anything less is not true enforcement.

 

[wtburnette]

BS. If they turn you away and you can't get medical treatment / services, I'd call that enforcement.

 

[maxipum]

BS. If they turn you away and you can't get medical treatment / services, I'd call that enforcement.

I think he meant if they really wanted him to wear it they would physically try to put one on him. You know so he could introduce them to Dr. Doteye.

 

[oze]

Enforced? Physically? Anything less is not true enforcement.

I believe the "enforcement " would be escorting the offender out.

 

[maxipum]

I think he meant if they really wanted him to wear it they would physically try to put one on him. You know so he could introduce them to Dr. Doteye.

I guess I should have used purple.