To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

[Ingomike]

Another one that 13 years of free to them education didn't penetrate...

In no way did I bring my trust of government into this debate.
What I believe about the government is irrelevant (like most of the comments on this never die thread).

I don't confuse MEDICAL ISSUES with some soggy brained political/religious propaganda.

100% of actual medical professionals recommend masks, disinfecting, vaccinations.

The 'Doctor' that's been quoted the most as anti-vaxer has a 'Doctorate' in religious studies from an on line religious university...
But the conspiracy theory types don't check references if it supports what they WANT to 'Believe'.

All those people that paid all that tax money into building, equipping & staffing schools, 13 years of available education, and so many wasted that time, money, opportunity and can't tell the difference between medical, governmental, political & religious issues...

On the governmental side of things,
It's a pretty good argument for a nanny state to keep these people from hurting themselves like toddlers...
Don't want the conspiracy theory types drinking bleach under the sink or getting ahold of weapons, simply can't be trusted with dangerous things...

This is an awesome post to attest to the veracity of the 13 years of government indoctrination coupled with corporate media...

Liar, Liar, pants on fire. Only in the censored world of social media is there 100% agreement. You might like it better over there, it will reinforce your thinking, and give you a pacifier and security blanket...

 

[foszoe]

Jeephammer Every time you write something it gets dumber in here.

trying to figure out how this post added to the conversation....failing

 

[JeepHammer]

Anyone posting that says "100%" of anyone agree is just an out and out liar. Everyone knows in humans it is impossible too get "100%" agreement, ever. Unless one is "willfully stupid", has "mental illness", while spreading "pointless propaganda", people know better.

OOPS, it isn't pointless, it has a point, to deceive those like you...

Once again, you missed the English language part...
"Medical Professionals".

One guy tries to say that doctorates out number the conspiracy theory believers...
The next can't differentiate between medical professionals with actual educations working the front lines and any average crackpot posting on a firearms forum...

Seems about 99% here can't differentiate between political, governmental and medical issues, which explains why so many are so vocal with the conspiracy theories...

Like I said, if you want to eat/drink from the septic tank, it's your right to do so
The bottom 10%-15% has to pool somewhere seeing as crap always runs downhill...
But then again there is the conspiracy theory gravity isn't real so they won't believe that either!

 

[Ingomike]

Once again, you missed the English language part...
"Medical Professionals".

One guy tries to say that doctorates out number the conspiracy theory believers...
The next can't differentiate between medical professionals with actual educations working the front lines and any average crackpot posting on a firearms forum...

Seems about 99% here can't differentiate between political, governmental and medical issues, which explains why so many are so vocal with the conspiracy theories...

Like I said, if you want to eat/drink from the septic tank, it's your right to do so
The bottom 10%-15% has to pool somewhere seeing as crap always runs downhill...
But then again there is the conspiracy theory gravity isn't real so they won't believe that either!

"100%" of "Medical Professionals" do not agree...

 

[JCSR]

Another one that 13 years of free to them education didn't penetrate...

In no way did I bring my trust of government into this debate.
What I believe about the government is irrelevant (like most of the comments on this never die thread).

I don't confuse MEDICAL ISSUES with some soggy brained political/religious propaganda.

100% of actual medical professionals recommend masks, disinfecting, vaccinations.

The 'Doctor' that's been quoted the most as anti-vaxer has a 'Doctorate' in religious studies from an on line religious university...
But the conspiracy theory types don't check references if it supports what they WANT to 'Believe'.

All those people that paid all that tax money into building, equipping & staffing schools, 13 years of available education, and so many wasted that time, money, opportunity and can't tell the difference between medical, governmental, political & religious issues...

On the governmental side of things,
It's a pretty good argument for a nanny state to keep these people from hurting themselves like toddlers...
Don't want the conspiracy theory types drinking bleach under the sink or getting ahold of weapons, simply can't be trusted with dangerous things...

Now you are just posting lies.

 

[JCSR]

"100%" of "Medical Professionals" do not agree...

This seems to back this up.......

 

[Ingomike]

You just killed your own counter-point by missing the number one reason people won't get vaccinated or take protective measures, confusing government distrust with medical issues...

You are also dead wrong about doctorates being the most unlikely to be vaccinated/take protective measures...

The masses are refusing to be vaccinated simply because doctorates are about 1/100,000 of the US citizens.
So 100,000 high school or less to every doctorate...

And YOU CLAIM it's doctorates having the largest demographic not being vaccinated or refusing protective measures...
Simply ridiculous propaganda twisted beyond all rationale to try and prove a lost point that was political/fake to begin with.
It's a MEDICAL ISSUE, has nothing to do with political/religious...

Quote:
While tentative people are concerned about COVID-19 vaccine safety and potential side effects, those with stronger views tend to distrust the government.
End Quote.

This means it's people that can't differentiate between medical & political situations,
And that article you posted PROVES MY POINT.

There is no way to reach the willfully stupid that can't differentiate between medical issues and their chosen political/religious 'Beliefs' no matter how screwed up they may have the information.

Continue drinking from the sewers, it's your constitutional right to do so...

Maybe you should read the article without the leftist blinders on. It specifically says:

"The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group."

Yet you persist in denigrating, the educational group, even Bill Gates is in, over some BS idea that those that went to college are special, they are not, just more indoctrination and hopefully a side dish of training for their occupation...

 

[Ingomike]

This seems to back this up.......

He is just yanking chains, but I love calling him out on the lies...

 

[JeepHammer]

"100%" of "Medical Professionals" do not agree...

Find just ONE virologist, ER doctor, etc that agrees with your stated view point...
None of these 'Religious Doctorates', no unidentified 'Doctorate' in something other than medicine...

The far right has been looking for that 'Magic' MD since this began, and they haven't found one that wants to kill their career...

So far the only 'Doctor' they produced turned out to have a 'Doctorate' from an internet religion, doesn't have ANY medical training...
Since that broke he's not quoted as much, but his message is still repeated.

Fox news won't let anyone into their buildings without GOVERNMENT PROOF of actual vaccination.
They REQUIRED 100% of their employees to be vaccinated.
Vaccinated or leave the job, no religious or political exceptions allowed.

Since the far right wingers
(that complained about 'undocumented')
are now buying FAKE vaccination cards,
Fox news won't let you in unless you are on the US government vaccination rolls.

They don't even trust their own 'True Believers' while still spewing the vaccine is a government conspiracy and not safe.

And they won't take the word of even doctors that administered the vaccine, you have to be registered with the CDC/government (they claim not to trust) to gain admittance...

Trump got his vaccination after COVID infection, and got his entire extended family vaccinated even when it wasn't yet approved for minors,
And yet still calls COVID a hoax...

The conspiracy theory types have no limits to the depths they will sink to...
The means DO NOT justify the ends.
You either play it straight up & honest, or you are a scumbag, and there isn't any 'Gray' area, you can't be 'Sort Of Honest'...
You can't say, "We'll stop this after 1 million die"...

Extremists have ALWAYS been more than willing to sacrifice someone else's life for wealth & power, and that's exactly what this is all about.
Willing to sacrifice the ignorant, or stupid/duped to retain power/wealth.

So again, find just ONE actual scientists with verifiable education in the medical field that doesn't think masks, disinfecting & vaccines don't reduce/stop infections...

It's a common sense thing, like don't play with fire or drink bleach, or jump out of an airplane without a parachute.

Shouldn't have to explain this to adults,
But then again, adults shouldn't be conspiracy theory trolls on the internet...

 

[nonobaddog]

He is just yanking chains, but I love calling him out on the lies...

He does seem to like amusing little rants.
Maybe he just needs a Snickers.

 

[Ingomike]

trying to figure out how this post added to the conversation....failing

I agree, it can be real head scratching to discern what some of posts add to the conversation, I mean look at the one quoted here, failing...

 

[Ingomike]

Find just ONE virologist, ER doctor, etc that agrees with your stated view point...
None of these 'Religious Doctorates', no unidentified 'Doctorate' in something other than medicine...

The far right has been looking for that 'Magic' MD since this began, and they haven't found one that wants to kill their career...

So far the only 'Doctor' they produced turned out to have a 'Doctorate' from an internet religion, doesn't have ANY medical training...
Since that broke he's not quoted as much, but his message is still repeated.

Fox news won't let anyone into their buildings without GOVERNMENT PROOF of actual vaccination.
They REQUIRED 100% of their employees to be vaccinated.
Vaccinated or leave the job, no religious or political exceptions allowed.

Since the far right wingers
(that complained about 'undocumented')
are now buying FAKE vaccination cards,
Fox news won't let you in unless you are on the US government vaccination rolls.

They don't even trust their own 'True Believers' while still spewing the vaccine is a government conspiracy and not safe.

And they won't take the word of even doctors that administered the vaccine, you have to be registered with the CDC/government (they claim not to trust) to gain admittance...

Trump got his vaccination after COVID infection, and got his entire extended family vaccinated even when it wasn't yet approved for minors,
And yet still calls COVID a hoax...

The conspiracy theory types have no limits to the depths they will sink to...
The means DO NOT justify the ends.
You either play it straight up & honest, or you are a scumbag, and there isn't any 'Gray' area, you can't be 'Sort Of Honest'...
You can't say, "We'll stop this after 1 million die"...

Extremists have ALWAYS been more than willing to sacrifice someone else's life for wealth & power, and that's exactly what this is all about.
Willing to sacrifice the ignorant, or stupid/duped to retain power/wealth.

So again, find just ONE actual scientists with verifiable education in the medical field that doesn't think masks, disinfecting & vaccines don't reduce/stop infections...

It's a common sense thing, like don't play with fire or drink bleach, or jump out of an airplane without a parachute.

Shouldn't have to explain this to adults,
But then again, adults shouldn't be conspiracy theory trolls on the internet...

The little boy can't think on his own, just follows the narrative created for him by those in power...

 

[JeepHammer]

Maybe you should read the article without the leftist blinders on. It specifically says:

"The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group."

Yet you persist in denigrating, the educational group, even Bill Gates is in, over some BS idea that those that went to college are special, they are not, just more indoctrination and hopefully a side dish of training for their occupation...

What "Leftist Blinders"?

This was supposed to be a medical situation discussion, not a far right/conspiracy theory rant thread.

After all, it wasn't the medical professionals that told you COVID was fake,
They didn't tell you to drink bleach,
That was all far right rant/rage types...

At least some of the far right types at least admit COVID is real...
I guess that's some kind of start back towards reality.

 

[Ingomike]

What "Leftist Blinders"?

This was supposed to be a medical situation discussion, not a far right/conspiracy theory rant thread.

After all, it wasn't the medical professionals that told you COVID was fake,
They didn't tell you to drink bleach,
That was all far right rant/rage types...

At least some of the far right types at least admit COVID is real...
I guess that's some kind of start back towards reality.

Are you here to discuss or throw bombs? Who said covid was fake? Please link a post or you are just making more lies.


Why do you believe the media, social media, big pharma, and government? They have all been caught lying and worse. Why do you believe them?

 

[JeepHammer]

The little boy can't think on his own, just follows the narrative created for him by those in power...

"Little Boy?"

Define that.

As for things being created for me...
Poor try.
I'm not the one repeating the baseless, unsupportable claims that COVID doesn't exist, it doesn't kill people, it came be caught by 'God Fearing White People' and all the other stupidity that gets passed around.

Actual medical science (not to be confused with government or politics)
100% proves COVID is real,
It kills people,
Masks, disinfecting & vaccinations save lives, lessen the severity of you are unfortunate enough to be infected by some science denier with a vairant,

And let's not forget there wouldn't be mutated variants if the original instructions/recommendations were followed, we would be over this by now if it weren't for the willfully stupid in this country...

So thank all those tin foil hat types for yet another year of disease, shortages, economic down turns...

Again, best argument for a nanny state to keep these people from hurting themselves & others...

 

[JeepHammer]

Are you here to discuss or throw bombs? Who said covid was fake? Please link a post or you are just making more lies.


Why do you believe the media, social media, big pharma, and government? They have all been caught lying and worse. Why do you believe them?

President Trump, national media (all channels).
Fake Virus.
Fake Kung Flu.
Masks aren't necessary.

All the while testing the crap out of anyone approaching the Whitehouse, and still didn't keep it out...

Guess that bleach drinking thing didn't work for the Trump Whitehouse.

Trump saying vaccines were dangerous, still getting his entire extended family, including children & infants, to the very front of the vaccine line...

I'd call that the commander & chief of conspiracy theorists, also makes him the biggest hypocrite in the world.

When the right wing 'God' of conspiracy theorists comes on national TV and says the stuff, you still want me to find you links?
Just who do you think you are?
And why would you want a 'Little Boy' to look anything up for you?

Once again,
I'm NOT your nanny.

Drink from the septic tank if you want to.
Drink bleach if you want to.
Run with knives/scissors, play with loaded guns, drive like an idiot if you want to...

None of my business if you are trying for a Darwin Award as long as you don't try to take me with you.

I stayed awake in basic biology, and I've proven to myself science is real.
I stayed awake in government/Constitution classes, so I know the difference between politics, government & medical issues.

That 13 years of free to me education wasn't entirely wasted, and I have enough IQ points left to differentiate between actual & fake most times...

Remember, I'm the one that saw this crap coming in the 80's,
Started building in the 90's,
And I'm about 90% self sufficient if I'm forced to do so...
I'm not the one complaining about ammo shortages, food shortages, fuel shortages, etc...
Turns out this 'Little Boy' has done fairly well, taken care of himself for about 60 years watching what I thought might happen nearly 40 years ago.

Unfortunately, Americans have proven the theory of de-evolution to be fact,
and proven as a group humans are dumb, panic stricken, dangerous animals when in groups...

Yet another downside of the internet was allowing the most scared, panic stricken animals to spread the panic to larger & larger herds...
And the educated had such high hopes for the internet making education accessable... I guess that's out the window now, it's mostly porn, mental illness and conspiracy theories.

 

[snapping turtle]

This is a global virus.
Sure the USA can get to herd immunity at 69-83 percent jab rate. About 7 percent of the population has other factors like cancer/aids ect that would make the virus or jab not a good idea to receive. Israel is jabbed to herd immunity.

If the delta (India) strain is here now which it is. That means any country’s strain can get here. India has a huge population of which less that seven percent have been jabbed.

So no matter if the USA gets to every citizen vaccinated if the virus mutates to jump the vaccine in Cambodia it will get on a plane end up in Japan then into San Francisco and then to Indianapolis via the 49’s football team. (All hypothetical).

the good thing about successfully viruses is they seem to become less deadly as they mutate and become more common. A deadly virus kills the host and spreads less.

Personally I am not afraid of you. Make your own mind up free will. To jab or not to jab. To mask or not to mask. Just do not let them set precedent on a virus with a 99.8 percent survival rate. What happens when some comes along with a 70 percent survival rate and a 90 percent survival rate on the medication (jab).

I have tiger blood (type o positive) not common for this blood type to get beer virus. I am also jabbed. A decision I made which was based on economic measures. My wife has yet to be jabbed. My youngest wants to be at 17 and will undergo it soon. (She was Covid positive at XMas) my oldest said she will never be jabbed.

 

[BugI02]

trying to figure out how this post added to the conversation....failing

See! You're dumber than you were before you read his post

 

[Ingomike]

President Trump, national media (all channels).
Fake Virus.
Fake Kung Flu.
Masks aren't necessary.

All the while testing the crap out of anyone approaching the Whitehouse, and still didn't keep it out...

Guess that bleach drinking thing didn't work for the Trump Whitehouse.

Trump saying vaccines were dangerous, still getting his entire extended family, including children & infants, to the very front of the vaccine line...

I'd call that the commander & chief of conspiracy theorists, also makes him the biggest hypocrite in the world.

When the right wing 'God' of conspiracy theorists comes on national TV and says the stuff, you still want me to find you links?
Just who do you think you are?
And why would you want a 'Little Boy' to look anything up for you?

Always changing the meaning to what you want. Who on INGO said that? That's who you have been insulting all afternoon...

 

[blues bondsman]

This is a global virus.
Sure the USA can get to herd immunity at 69-83 percent jab rate. About 7 percent of the population has other factors like cancer/aids ect that would make the virus or jab not a good idea to receive. Israel is jabbed to herd immunity.

If the delta (India) strain is here now which it is. That means any country’s strain can get here. India has a huge population of which less that seven percent have been jabbed.

So no matter if the USA gets to every citizen vaccinated if the virus mutates to jump the vaccine in Cambodia it will get on a plane end up in Japan then into San Francisco and then to Indianapolis via the 49’s football team. (All hypothetical).

the good thing about successfully viruses is they seem to become less deadly as they mutate and become more common. A deadly virus kills the host and spreads less.

Personally I am not afraid of you. Make your own mind up free will. To jab or not to jab. To mask or not to mask. Just do not let them set precedent on a virus with a 99.8 percent survival rate. What happens when some comes along with a 70 percent survival rate and a 90 percent survival rate on the medication (jab).

I have tiger blood (type o positive) not common for this blood type to get beer virus. I am also jabbed. A decision I made which was based on economic measures. My wife has yet to be jabbed. My youngest wants to be at 17 and will undergo it soon. (She was Covid positive at XMas) my oldest said she will never be jabbed.

I have read that it was o neg that was especially immune to the virus.
Where did you get your info ?
just curios.