The "Sig"ness- vol 1.

[88E30M50]

With Sigs around, there's plenty to be thankful for

 

[chef1231]

Well I just bought a P229 Legion rxp. Should be here in a few days. Then I can hang out in here with the cool kids

 

[deo62]

We’re more of an outcast lot than cool kids

 

[88E30M50]

We’re more of an outcast lot than cool kids

QFT

 

[Expat]

Yeah, I never got that whole thing. But I am not a tier one operator like most of the INGOistas.

 

[88E30M50]

Yeah, I never got that whole thing. But I am not a tier one operator like most of the INGOistas.

I have a personal theory regarding the creation of the low bore axis myth. My belief is that when the Glock was being designed, it needed to shoot like what shooters were used to in order to be accepted in a world of revolvers and full metal frame pistols. To achieve this, the bore axis needed to be pushed as low as possible.

Glock pushed the bore axis so low, they had to rotate the grip angle back a few degrees to get the trigger finger back in alignment with the trigger. It worked but it caused a mistaken belief that the low bore axis is needed on all guns instead of actually just being a compromise needed to drive the adoption of light polymer framed pistols in the era of heavier metal framed guns.

Now that polymer framed pistols are an accepted standard, other poly gun makers don't need to force that degree of compromise and can use the more tradional grip angle.

 

[edporch]

QFT

I always hear this.
What exactly is the bore axis of a 1911 vs a P229 for example?
I've looked but find no specs anywhere.

 

[Expat]

Pistol Bore Axis Comparison: What is Low Bore Axis?

Which pistol has the lowest bore axis? Find out, and learn all about the pros and cons.

www.guntweaks.com

I had seen this article on another forum awhile back that tries to explain some of this.

 

[mcapo]

Pistol Bore Axis Comparison: What is Low Bore Axis?

Which pistol has the lowest bore axis? Find out, and learn all about the pros and cons.

www.guntweaks.com

I had seen this article on another forum awhile back that tries to explain some of this.

Trading all my pistols in on R51s. ;-)

Seriously though, that is a very interesting table.

 

[edporch]

Pistol Bore Axis Comparison: What is Low Bore Axis?

Which pistol has the lowest bore axis? Find out, and learn all about the pros and cons.

www.guntweaks.com

I had seen this article on another forum awhile back that tries to explain some of this.

So in looking at this, the difference in bore axis between a 1911 and a P226 (which I assume is the same as a P229) is a whole 6 hundredths of an inch?

 

[Expat]

So in looking at this, the difference in bore axis between a 1911 and a P226 (which I assume is the same as a P229) is a whole 6 hundredths of an inch?

That is why so many people that are comfortable with 1911s like the Sig grip angles. The GLock, not so much.

 

[T-DOGG]

P322 cleaning cheat I discovered. Apologies if posted elsewhere, I'm sure someone already figured this out.

The hammer protrudes just enough in the cocked position to obscure the path of a cleaning rod down the barrel. A small zip tie strategically placed keeps the hammer out of the way. I push down on the hammer, and tighten the zip tie.

 

[T-DOGG]

https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-axg-carry-medium-grip-module-bead-blasted-with-black-panels.html

 

[edporch]

My P229 .357 Sig DAK had a light primer strike malfunction on 3 rounds when I let somebody else shoot a magazine load through it on Thanksgiving.
Am open to suggestions as to what caused it.

This pistol has always functioned FLAWLESSLY for me.

Yet when this other guy shot it, he had 3 rounds that failed to fire with light primer strikes.

He even tried pulling the trigger multiple times on each of these rounds and they didn't fire.
He also NOT a novice when it come to shooting.

I put these same rounds back in the magazine and they all fired fine for me.

YESTERDAY, I removed the firing pin and spring, and checked the firing pin channel for any gunk or buildup.
I wiped some Breakfree in it, and when I wiped it back out I just got a minute amount of carbon.

Any ideas? Mainspring?

 

[88E30M50]

That's an odd one. I'd check over on ST to see if Willard might have some idea.

 

[wcd]

My P229 .357 Sig DAK had a light primer strike malfunction on 3 rounds when I let somebody else shoot a magazine load through it on Thanksgiving.
Am open to suggestions as to what caused it.

This pistol has always functioned FLAWLESSLY for me.

Yet when this other guy shot it, he had 3 rounds that failed to fire with light primer strikes.

He even tried pulling the trigger multiple times on each of these rounds and they didn't fire.
He also NOT a novice when it come to shooting.

I put these same rounds back in the magazine and they all fired fine for me.

YESTERDAY, I removed the firing pin and spring, and checked the firing pin channel for any gunk or buildup.
I wiped some Breakfree in it, and when I wiped it back out I just got a minute amount of carbon.

Any ideas? Mainspring?

Too light of a grip?

 

[edporch]

That's an odd one. I'd check over on ST to see if Willard might have some idea.

Good suggestion.
I posted this in a new thread over there.

 

[edporch]

Too light of a grip?

I don't know, would that cause this?
The guy is an experienced shooter and handles a pistol pretty well.

 

[wcd]

I don't know, would that cause this?


Not sure just a thought

 

[shootersix]

QFT

Whenever any says “low bore axis!” I roll my eyes and say “doesn’t bother me, cause I’m not an 8 year old girl”