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  • KLB

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    I'm more focused on the "who." Im out of the range of ages given, but when I was in that sample group, I can assure you a white kid living off of post road or any other "rough area," would have been several orders of magnitude at higher risk than me.
    Who kills young black males?
     

    mmpsteve

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    Gun control is just another politically correct term for subjugation and internment of a country. They are fools if they think people don't understand that their goal is to make sure people can not fight back against tyranny.. its a dead give away that they have some pretty devastating plans for humanity if they are trying to remove their means for survival and self preservation.. its not rocket science

    The evidence would indicate at least half the US population does not understand the real goal. And that number is growing. Make no mistake, the "fools", as you say, advocating for gun control know EXACTLY what they are doing.
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    JCSR

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    IS it a breakdown of the family? IS it access to opportunity? Is it laziness? Is it simply bad luck? You tell me.
    I struggle to answer that. I see white kids getting into the same trouble. A common dominator is lack of parental guidance. There are a lot of people that have lost hope I guess. If you can enlighten on this I would like to hear it.
     

    Twangbanger

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    The suicide rate of a nation is actually one of those little indicators which serves to poke holes in the idea of utopian socialist happiness. America's suicide rate is well-lower than a significant number of countries with tight gun control laws, which are often touted as models of communitarian bliss. The Asian countries and north European countries tend to be significantly higher on that, if I recall.

    I am in agreement with the view that suicide, while a tragedy, isn't a threat to public safety, and therefore shouldn't have "major" public policy formed around eradicating it (defined as policy which modifies constitutional liberties).

    Whenever I hear someone who thinks the correct response to suicide is gun control...that person is an anti-gun hack. They're not trying to fix suicide. They're trying to ban guns. There are suicide prevention strategies other than gun control.

    Because as a "policy lever" for reducing suicide, banning guns is a really bad one. The number of guns you'd have to remove from society, and the laws you'd have to pass to do it, in order to make a dent in the overall suicide rate, would affect a _lot_ of innocent people negatively.

    But...when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. And to these people, everything looks like a reason for gun control.
     

    Twangbanger

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    I struggle to answer that. I see white kids getting into the same trouble. A common dominator is lack of parental guidance. There are a lot of people that have lost hope I guess. If you can enlighten on this I would like to hear it.
    **Now** people are starting to figure out how you handle this guy. Always ready to draw out and pick apart "your" explanations for something...too *********** to offer his own.

    "Tee it up...let's hear YOUR explanation." Well done.
     

    TangoFoxtrot

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    The article basically claims that gun violence is a public health crises much like a disease that effects young black males in higher numbers.

    That's why the CDC compiles data and treats it like a disease. Gun grabbers also view it as a public health issue.
    They compile it in that manner so it can be used to rationalize their agenda.. they would have everyone believe a light rain equals torrent downpours of biblical proportions
     

    Jaybird1980

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    I struggle to answer that. I see white kids getting into the same trouble. A common dominator is lack of parental guidance. There are a lot of people that have lost hope I guess. If you can enlighten on this I would like to hear it.
    I also see people spiral pretty quick when they get into drug usage. I also know a couple of people who came from drug addicted parents and worked extra hard to break the cycle.
     
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    spec4

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    I simply look at history. Stalin and Hitler are fairly recent examples of "leaders" who didn't want their subjects to own firearms.Wonder why.

    Once we let the socialists take away 2A, as they clearly wish to do, what do you think they will do next? We are at war and they are the enemy I don't worry about China, N.Korea, or Iran. I worry about a total takeover of my country by socialists.
     

    NKBJ

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    You guys are making me think about Della Reese getting her pinkie toe shot off.
    But hey, as soon as a discussion of anti-2nd political activity got baited into being a racism squabble I couldn't stop grinning any way.
     

    Ingomike

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    The Dems want to take my guns (old white guy and legal) rather than address the real problem.
    I'm sure I'll be called racist for this post but I didn't write the article. I also posted in the Political forum because.....you know..... :cool:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ore-than-third-2019-gun-homicides/4559929001/

    The analysis, titled "A Public Health Crisis in the Making," found that although Black men and boys ages 15 to 34 make up just 2% of the nation's population, they were among 37% of gun homicides that year.
    The original article cited is propaganda. One world order superseding the constitution is the point of leading the US to the UN small arms treaty, they didn't create that for themselves to join but as a stepping stone to drag us toward their goal of disarmament of the people...

    What if a treaty is unconstitutional?
     

    BigRed

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    I simply look at history. Stalin and Hitler are fairly recent examples of "leaders" who didn't want their subjects to own firearms.Wonder why.

    Once we let the socialists take away 2A, as they clearly wish to do, what do you think they will do next? We are at war and they are the enemy I don't worry about China, N.Korea, or Iran. I worry about a total takeover of my country by socialists.


    Some here voted for that
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I struggle to answer that. I see white kids getting into the same trouble. A common dominator is lack of parental guidance. There are a lot of people that have lost hope I guess. If you can enlighten on this I would like to hear it.
    If I had the answer, I’d solve the problem. I don’t have the answer; but I’ll tell you this, painting it in racial terms, as pretty much everyone seems to do, won’t solve the problem. If your truly think it’s not based on color, then you need to look elsewhere for the problem. Phylo pointed to “subculture,” and to a degree I’d agree.
    Let me ask you this, if the country was entirely white, where would you think these gun violence problems would be found? .... unless you you think those problems wouldn’t be present, which I assume you didn’t believe.
     

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    **Now** people are starting to figure out how you handle this guy. Always ready to draw out and pick apart "your" explanations for something...too *********** to offer his own.

    "Tee it up...let's hear YOUR explanation." Well done.
    Buenas suerte, lol
     

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    It's a subculture that accepts and at times glamorizes a lifestyle in which violence is a matter of doing business.
    I dont think this is necessarily it. I grew up playing cowboys and indians and being heavily influenced by war movies/ video games and i havent ever been arrested.

    I think a lot of it has to do with income levels.
     

    JCSR

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    If I had the answer, I’d solve the problem. I don’t have the answer; but I’ll tell you this, painting it in racial terms, as pretty much everyone seems to do, won’t solve the problem. If your truly think it’s not based on color, then you need to look elsewhere for the problem. Phylo pointed to “subculture,” and to a degree I’d agree.
    Let me ask you this, if the country was entirely white, where would you think these gun violence problems would be found? .... unless you you think those problems wouldn’t be present, which I assume you didn’t believe.
    In a all white country I think the reason would be the same. Lack of a strong family structure. A lot of "experts" want to throw poverty in the mix but I've known plenty of poor families that didn't raise thieves or murderers. My parents and probably yours knew where I was at midnight. If not they came looking for me.
     

    phylodog

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    I think a lot of it has to do with income levels.
    The numbers would disagree. There are more white people living in poverty than black people in this country. If it were based on poverty the numbers would be very different. There are plenty of white males, asian males and hispanic males who belong to the same age group mentioned and engage in the same activities so it isn't skin color. Poverty is a contributing aspect but no more so than fatherless households. It all ties back to the same subculture.

    You cannot force people to change their behavior and it gets even more difficult when that same behavior is rewarded. Again, plenty of rural trailer parks full of fatherless white kids across the country in the same boat so it isn't skin color.

    https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2020/demo/p60-270.html
     
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