I’m not seeing any upside here, just lies and hypocrisy from the manufacturer and supporters…
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The people I know that have or support EV's talk like you get charging for free. Even when telling me how easy it is to find charging stations on the road they never mention the cost. They are climate hero's in their minds. 
Tesla ‘spontaneously’ catches fire on California freeway, officials say
A Tesla Model S became engulfed in flames after the vehicle's battery compartment "spontaneously" combusted while driving on a freeway near Sacramento, California, on Saturday.
Most talk like they run on free farts.The people I know that have or support EV's talk like you get charging for free. Even when telling me how easy it is to find charging stations on the road they never mention the cost. They are climate hero's in their minds.
Same car in California. How ironic it took 6000 gallons as precious as water is there.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Fire crews use SIX THOUSAND gallons of water to extinguish Tesla fire
The Tesla caught on fire while the driver was on Highway 50 in Rancho Cordova on Saturday. Fire officials said that nothing was wrong with the car before it combusted.
This is one of those things where the market will and should decide what it wants. If people want a primarily electric vehicle, but they’re dubious about the range, they might think adding a gas range extender would close the gap. Not everyone who is skeptical of electric vehicles hate them for ideological reasons.
I like the technology. I think it’s cool. Too many downsides for me to have seriously considered buying one. Range is just one of many reasons I didn’t buy one. But ideology isn’t on the list.
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There it is, all susinct. The truth is the market is not deciding, man made warming is not a fact, thus folks are ideologically opposed, though the government is utilizing car companies to do that which would be unconstitutional if they did it themselves…
They tell us so at Davos and other times, but the sheeple snug in their normalcy bias do not believe them…
I don't understand people. The Resident in Chief is purposefully making our country dependent on foreign powers, the idiots at Davos are outright saying what their plan is for us in the future, with laws being passed accordingly, we're being told to take shots to keep our jobs, which aren't properly tested, lied to about their efficacy, our rights are being removed or constrained left and right and the Leftist DA's and other politicians are keeping criminals on the streets. Add to that our country has a huge, brightly lit Vacancy sign for all the third world countries to send us their people illegally, who will soak up benefits due to the corruption of our "leaders", but people think that things are just fine...
The thinking of most people is less than that of a trained seal…I don't understand people. The Resident in Chief is purposefully making our country dependent on foreign powers, the idiots at Davos are outright saying what their plan is for us in the future, with laws being passed accordingly, we're being told to take shots to keep our jobs, which aren't properly tested, lied to about their efficacy, our rights are being removed or constrained left and right and the Leftist DA's and other politicians are keeping criminals on the streets. Add to that our country has a huge, brightly lit Vacancy sign for all the third world countries to send us their people illegally, who will soak up benefits due to the corruption of our "leaders", but people think that things are just fine...
Hey those seals are pretty smart.
Off topic , but read an article about a guy who figured a way to make a car run on WATER & not steam .
Now he’s dead ! Hmmmm go figure .
Kind of fishy if you ask me !
Now he’s dead ! Hmmmm go figure .
Kind of fishy if you ask me !
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That one perpetual motion machine is the one that worked!Off topic , but read an article about a guy who figured a way to make a car run on WATER & not steam .
Now he’s dead ! Hmmmm go figure .
Kind of fishy if you ask me !
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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“In Q4 2022, typical mid-priced ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) car drivers paid about $11.29 to fuel their vehicles for 100 miles of driving. That cost was around $0.31 cheaper than the amount paid by mid-priced EV drivers charging mostly at home, and over $3 less than the cost borne by comparable EV drivers charging commercially,” Anderson Economic Group (AEG)
This can not be. It cost $ to run an EV?Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
“In Q4 2022, typical mid-priced ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) car drivers paid about $11.29 to fuel their vehicles for 100 miles of driving. That cost was around $0.31 cheaper than the amount paid by mid-priced EV drivers charging mostly at home, and over $3 less than the cost borne by comparable EV drivers charging commercially,” Anderson Economic Group (AEG)
Not if you live in a sunshine state, have a lot of solar panels and only need to go 2 miles to the grocery once a week.
The insurance alone is 50% more than a similar gas powered vehicle.
How Much More Do Electric Vehicle Owners Pay for Insurance?
MoneyGeek's study reveals the most expensive electric vehicles to insure and why EV insurance costs more than coverage for gas-powered cars.
Electric Car Insurance: Is It More Expensive?
Insurance for an electric car can be more expensive than insurance for a regular car. But tax incentives and low maintenance needs can help reduce costs.
www.progressive.com
Electric Vehicles May Cost More to Insure Than Gasoline-Powered Cars - Consumer Reports
Electric vehicles may cost more to insure than gas-powered cars. Prices are likely to drop as insurers gather more data on repair costs and EVs become more popular.
Electric Car Insurance: What You Need To Know - NerdWallet
Electric car insurance is typically more expensive than insurance for regular gas-powered cars. Here’s how to save.
Electric Car Insurance: Why It Costs More
The national average cost for gas increased to more than $5 per gallon in June 2022—a record-breaking spike not seen in the 22 years that AAA has been evaluating gas prices. The shock at the gas pump may be causing many drivers to give electric cars a serious look. Plenty of drivers have already
www.forbes.com
If you want to really raise your premium make sure to include insurance that covers the battery(full replacement if you are looking for serious pain). Most full coverage "gas" vehicle insurance covers any drive train cost repairs from an accident. Not with electrics though,most policies exclude battery replacement and unless you catch it that cost will be yours,even from an accident.
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Not everyone who wants an electric car or even likes them thinks about the environment. I think they’re cool. I don’t really give a **** about global warming.
This kinda confirms the source of people’s angst over EV’s. You guys act as if you think their availability at all is about nothing but global warming.
It is that at least a little. The green industrial complex is a huge industry. The market has not grown the sales organically. It was helped by government subsidies. I much prefer that EV’s would be market driven.
But. It is at least a little market driven. I think that market would be much smaller without government help. But you’re not making greater good arguments in this thread, are you. There are many more reasons to want an electric car than delusions of saving the planet.
I think they’re cool. I don’t own one only because they’re impractical for me. Right now. If I didn’t care about range, time to charge, availability of charge, cost of charging, battery life, impact on the power grid, mining battery material, and all that stuff, I would probably have bought one. Because they’re cool.
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