With the coming political environment of top Dems calling for “lists of Trump supporters” and increased gun control along with encouragement of “neighbor watching neighbor” (ie snitches), I wonder if the OC/CC considerations will shift. OC might make one be singled out not only for a go/no go decision on a robbers part, but also for a political motivation. I can foresee some triggered (no pun intended) anti-gun nut being more of a problem that any potential thief.
Yup.
Quite a few.
This has been a problem in some areas for a while now. It won't have any weight when I determine whether I am going to OC/CC.I wonder if the OC/CC considerations will shift. OC might make one be singled out not only for a go/no go decision on a robbers part, but also for a political motivation. I can foresee some triggered (no pun intended) anti-gun nut being more of a problem that any potential thief.
I know its a fairly popular opinion to be the guy in the shadows.With the coming political environment of top Dems calling for “lists of Trump supporters” and increased gun control along with encouragement of “neighbor watching neighbor” (ie snitches), I wonder if the OC/CC considerations will shift. OC might make one be singled out not only for a go/no go decision on a robbers part, but also for a political motivation. I can foresee some triggered (no pun intended) anti-gun nut being more of a problem that any potential thief.
"BINGO"- Be polite.
- Don't initiate conflict or engage in ego battles.
- Carry a less lethal tool that falls somewhere between a firearm and a hard look. Because lethal force isn't always called for.
- Practice enough that you have a sub two second draw to first shot.
- Have a baseline understanding of grappling skills. You want the first time you get into a wrestling match over a gun to be on the mats, not in the real world.
- Be able to take a lunch or punches. Have the emotional fitness to stay in the fight.
- Don't try and draw from the drop, but wait for your turn. There is almost an opportunity for a counter ambush if you wait for it. But when it comes you need to act.
I might add a 1k lumen flash light has come in very handy more than a few times. Both as an aid to assisting someone, two yeah I think I am going to rethink my choices here. While not a nice thing to do to someone far better to address the issue in the least confrontational way possible.- Be polite.
- Don't initiate conflict or engage in ego battles.
- Carry a less lethal tool that falls somewhere between a firearm and a hard look. Because lethal force isn't always called for.
- Practice enough that you have a sub two second draw to first shot.
- Have a baseline understanding of grappling skills. You want the first time you get into a wrestling match over a gun to be on the mats, not in the real world.
- Be able to take a punch or punches. Have the emotional fitness to stay in the fight.
- Don't try and draw from the drop, but wait for your turn. There is almost an opportunity for a counter ambush if you wait for it. But when it comes you need to act.
LEARN the states rules of engagement. KNOW EXACTLY what situations allow the use of lethal force. I don`t know that anyone really understands all of this clearly. I have a good idea, but I know I don`t know everything to do with everything that makes the use of lethal force justified. What makes the use of lethal force justified ARE the rules of engagement, just as if you are at war. Obviously, as has been said, the ONLY gunfight you win is the gunfight you`re never involved in. Yet, there are some situations in which, lethal force is not only "ok", but obligatory. Indiana`s legal requirements for the legal use of lethal force ought to be discussed in GREAT detail, until there is absolutely zero ambiguity whatsoever.JCR
Just Carry Responsibly.
More on responsibility:
- Just: In any and all cases.
- Carry: Everywhere, every day.
- Responsibly: Get training, practice, never draw unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
Feel free to add other principles pertaining to responsibility that I may have overlooked.
- Know the rules of gun Safety and practice them at all times. (I don't even care if you are a 3 or 4 rule guy)
- Practice Situational Awareness.
- Walk away from sketchy situations.
- Never get in an altercation.
ETA,
After reading my post, I realized that some may consider JC redundant. So, here is a revised version.
CR
Carry Responsibly.
More on responsibility:
- Carry: Everywhere, every day.
- Responsibly: Get training, practice, never draw unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
Feel free to add other principles pertaining to responsibility that I may have overlooked.
- Know the rules of gun Safety and practice them at all times. (I don't even care if you are a 3 or 4 rule guy)
- Practice Situational Awareness.
- Walk away from sketchy situations.
- Never get in an altercation.
This is one that is very important and I hate that I did not think of it.LEARN the states rules of engagement. KNOW EXACTLY what situations allow the use of lethal force. I don`t know that anyone really understands all of this clearly. I have a good idea, but I know I don`t know everything to do with everything that makes the use of lethal force justified. What makes the use of lethal force justified ARE the rules of engagement, just as if you are at war. Obviously, as has been said, the ONLY gunfight you win is the gunfight you`re never involved in. Yet, there are some situations in which, lethal force is not only "ok", but obligatory. Indiana`s legal requirements for the legal use of lethal force ought to be discussed in GREAT detail, until there is absolutely zero ambiguity whatsoever.
I think when someone draws you into a situation things will become a whole new reality. How does that go everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.LEARN the states rules of engagement. KNOW EXACTLY what situations allow the use of lethal force. I don`t know that anyone really understands all of this clearly. I have a good idea, but I know I don`t know everything to do with everything that makes the use of lethal force justified. What makes the use of lethal force justified ARE the rules of engagement, just as if you are at war. Obviously, as has been said, the ONLY gunfight you win is the gunfight you`re never involved in. Yet, there are some situations in which, lethal force is not only "ok", but obligatory. Indiana`s legal requirements for the legal use of lethal force ought to be discussed in GREAT detail, until there is absolutely zero ambiguity whatsoever.
I guess I wouldn`t see a lethal force situation as a thing any of us would be "drawn into"...maybe it`s just semantics, but, use of lethal force would be, I would expect, the very last thing any of us would want to be involved in. It would be a very last resort deal. It would be a situation where we`d either have no way out of, and/or, a situation where we`d feel compelled to get involved in, in order to try to save lives. To say that we`d be "drawn into" it makes it sound as if we`d willingly be participants, and I think that`s the LAST thing we`d want to be a part of.I think when someone draws you into a situation things will become a whole new reality. How does that go everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
most importantly will be the facts and how others will see them.
I've seen that somewhere before I think.The open or conceal discussion will NEVER be settled because it always becomes a pi$$ing contest. How about just getting this covered before considering leaving the house with a loaded gun.
Carry Responsibly.
- Responsibly: Get training, practice, never draw unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
Here in Indiana, avail yourself of Guy Relford's 4-hour, $50 "Basics of Indiana Gun Law" course. Worth every penny, and then some.This is one that is very important and I hate that I did not think of it.
Back when I first started carrying openly, I had several interactions with Police in NWI. My knowledge of IC p***** them off.
Aston your point about making people nervous, I have run into very few instances of that in the 10+ years I have OCed.
I did notice that two young men with tear drop tats could not take their eyes off it the other day. I was solid Orange and will be whenever my new neighbors are close by. I never let on that my condition was heightened.