The coming food shortage.

[Karl-just-Karl]

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We have been buying, especially meat (that we don’t raise ourselves) from small local shops and grocery stores. Local butcher shop has gourmet burgers and brats that are unreal and packed with people all the time.

Weren't we already talking about cannibalism upthread?

 

[Ingomike]

Stop buying food at the big box stores. especially meat!

Do you realize this is impossible. The purveyors you describe cannot possibly serve everyone. The ones I support are struggling to keep up already…

 

[Cozy439]

After work today I stopped to get dog and pig feed. The store I went to was out! May have to serve them politicians.

Mr. Wu understood the assignment...

 

[wagyu52]

National Beef Wire

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beef2live.com

Guess what country the largest beef packer in the US is from

 

[blue2golf]

National Beef Wire

National Beef Wire is an interactive platform for the display of real-time pricing and news relevant to the cattle and agriculture industries.

beef2live.com

Guess what country the largest beef packer in the US is from

US Beef Exports By Country (Year-to-Date) - Beef2Live​

The United States has exported 845.8 million pounds of beef so far in 2022, up 6% from 2021

 

[wagyu52]

Do you realize this is impossible. The purveyors you describe cannot possibly serve everyone. The ones I support are struggling to keep up already…

Nothing is impossible. All these small processors didn’t leave all at once it’s obvious they won‘t return all at once but there is a move in that direction. If people believe there is a long term demand they will invest time and money.
All of the ones I know of have either picked up the pace or have plans. One is brand new, started by a farmer that got tired of the wait at another processor, agin he is appears to be slammed packed.

 

[wagyu52]

US Beef Exports By Country (Year-to-Date) - Beef2Live​

The United States has exported 845.8 million pounds of beef so far in 2022, up 6% from 2021

South Korea, that would be all prime. East Asia in general has been buying all the prime cuts from both pork and beef since the 90’s. Beef we are importing from Mexico and Brazil are less quality.

 

[Ingomike]

Nothing is impossible. All these small processors didn’t leave all at once it’s obvious they won‘t return all at once but there is a move in that direction. If people believe there is a long term demand they will invest time and money.
All of the ones I know of have either picked up the pace or have plans. One is brand new, started by a farmer that got tired of the wait at another processor, agin he is appears to be slammed packed.

Seems pretty naive to think that the shops processing local beef can supply all the big box retailers. You know better than that. What small processors got out of the business? I do not know any. All I know are running full tilt. There is just no way they can process the volume sold by big grocery chains. it is impossible without an entire new supply system.

Before the commoditization of cuts instead of sides of beef, my local grocery employed 15-20 butchers per store, not the few cutters they employ now. And that was 30 years ago, it would take so many more to create that system today.

I agree with your point, it is best to get local meat from a local supplier, but they cannot serve everyone…

 

[Ingomike]

South Korea, that would be all prime. East Asia in general has been buying all the prime cuts from both pork and beef since the 90’s. Beef we are importing from Mexico and Brazil are less quality.

Yep, tastes like it.

 

[wagyu52]

Seems pretty naive to think that the shops processing local beef can supply all the big box retailers. You know better than that. What small processors got out of the business? I do not know any. All I know are running full tilt. There is just no way they can process the volume sold by big grocery chains. it is impossible without an entire new supply system.

Before the commoditization of cuts instead of sides of beef, my local grocery employed 15-20 butchers per store, not the few cutters they employ now. And that was 30 years ago, it would take so many more to create that system today.

I agree with your point, it is best to get local meat from a local supplier, but they cannot serve everyone…

I don’t disagree with what your saying, I’m not naive in thinking everyone would.
We have lost 3 small processors in the last 5-10 yrs one in Brook IN just a year or so ago. Go back, 20-30 yrs and there was a lot more processors, big processors or at least more than 4. This processor situation we are in is a train wreck waiting to happen. Covid gave us a glimpse, we need a lot more diversity in our food industry.

 

[Ingomike]

I don’t disagree with what your saying, I’m not naive in thinking everyone would.
We have lost 3 small processors in the last 5-10 yrs one in Brook IN just a year or so ago. Go back, 20-30 yrs and there was a lot more processors, big processors or at least more than 4. This processor situation we are in is a train wreck waiting to happen. Covid gave us a glimpse, we need a lot more diversity in our food industry.

I too hate what they have done to our meat supply. I still remember asking a “butcher” at a grocery if it was fresh ground beef. He said yes, only for me to learn that awful crap was “fresh ground” regrind of tube beef, probably loaded with “finely textured beef” to boot.

 

[Karl-just-Karl]

30 years ago, the store chain I worked for imported all of the meat for making burger from Australia. It was in 50-60lb frozen slabs. we had a special machine that fit the slabs perfectly that was able to shave off a 3/4 inch thick slice of the completely frozen block. It scared the H*ll out of me. It could have cut through a Femur and never even slowed down.

Most of the other cuts were brought in as quarters and in-store butchers broke them down from there. That don't happen no more.

 

[vulindlela]

I've been stocking up for awhile. For the last 6 months every trip to the store I buy 5 cans of corn, peas, and green beans, along with a few bags of rice and dry beans, and a thing of canned ham or spam. I have plenty of pork and deer meat in my freezer for now, and tons of salt to cure it if needed.

I also have stores of heirloom seeds for lots of plants, along with a garden full of stuff already.

It amazes me how many people only have a few days worth of food in their house. As of right now, i think i could easily go a year without having to buy food. The only thing I might miss is milk, but I have a nice dairy farm about 5 miles from my house and I know the farmers real well.

We have been stocking up since March 2020 as well.
Many people I know think we are ridiculous. We shall see.

 

[Mark-DuCo]

We have been stocking up since March 2020 as well.
Many people I know think we are ridiculous. We shall see.

The way I see, we at least saved a few bucks if nothing bad happens. I've never seen food get cheaper in my lifetime.

 

[DFacres]

And your point is? Ever eaten Crow Pizza before

Most of us have eaten crow before.

 

[NAVISTAR275GM]

Maybe if you boiled the bull**** out of them first.

SEASONED PROPERLY AFTER THOROUGH CLEANING , THEY SHOULD TASTE SIMILAR TO CHICKEN............................OR NOT

 

[Shoot313]

There is no shortage. They’re manipulating you into running out and stocking up while food prices are at an all time high. Kind of reminds me of how they did the ammo. Remember when 9mm was 50cpr?

 

[Ingomike]

There is no shortage. They’re manipulating you into running out and stocking up while food prices are at an all time high. Kind of reminds me of how they did the ammo. Remember when 9mm was 50cpr?

Aren’t food prices always at an all time high?

 

[nonobaddog]

Why do we import 227 Million pounds of beef from Canada in three months and export 65 Million pounds of beef to them in the same three months?

 

[Ingomike]

Why do we import 227 Million pounds of beef from Canada in three months and export 65 Million pounds of beef to them in the same three months?

We literally are producing the best beef in the world and exporting it while importing lesser beef for consumption. Mass market meat has gone completely tasteless in my lifetime…