The coming attack on the 2A

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  • How will the attack on the 2A unfold?

    • It will be done legislatively

      Votes: 6 10.2%
    • It will be done by executive fiat

      Votes: 8 13.6%
    • Biden will sign executive orders immediately that will be later confirmed by congressional action

      Votes: 45 76.3%

    • Total voters
      59

    rb288

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    I, normally stay out of political discussions, but, this is to important to dismiss.
    I believe that there will be executive orders quickly.......
    1. Assault weapons ban 2.0, which include semi auto rifles, mags greater than 10 rounds, "high capacity" semi auto pistols, and suppressors.
    2. There will be NO grandfather clause, so, if you have them, you can't keep them.
    3. There will be NO sunset clause, so that it will never go away unless Congress legislates it away.
    These EOs will be quickly followed up with supporting legislation, to be challenged in the Supreme Court as an unconstitutional challenge. The outcome of which is in much doubt.
    I believe you will be allowed a certain amount of time to "turn in" your registered weapons, then confiscation will begin.
    It's going to be a very stressful and dangerous time for the next 6 months, or so, until this all gets clearer.
    Be prepared, make plans, be ready for a very rough time coming up.
     

    KittySlayer

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    1. Executive Order(s)
    2. {insert} Open the Schools in spite of COVID “For the Children”
    3. {insert} School Shooting by bullied kid unable to socialize following months being locked in home and munching on Ritalin like skittles because mommy can’t handle him being home.
      Swift legislation (Federal and State) “For the Children”
    4. Slow action by SCOTUS waiting for 2A cases to drift through lower courts because they are afraid of the Constitution.
    5. Shovel shortage will rival current Ammo shortage.
     

    JTScribe

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    I believe that there will be executive orders quickly.......
    1. Assault weapons ban 2.0, which include semi auto rifles, mags greater than 10 rounds, "high capacity" semi auto pistols, and suppressors.
    2. There will be NO grandfather clause, so, if you have them, you can't keep them.
    3. There will be NO sunset clause, so that it will never go away unless Congress legislates it away.

    No way that happens, IMO. That would be a serious overreach of executive power and I'm fairly certain the Supreme Court would act quickly as it steps on multiple case precedents.

    Same thing as the Trump EO suspending the payroll tax. Did your check go up? Mine sure didn't.
     

    indykid

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    Sad that the Executive Order has so been twisted that it is no longer what it was designed for.

    Originally it was for the president to demand a law be properly enforced or explained. For instance, it was George Bush the First that demanded by Executive Order that ATF come up with an explanation of "sporting purpose" as noted in the unconstitutional 1968 GCA. His EO is what led to 922(r).

    The idea of using an EO to make a law or rule goes against the true purpose of an EO but lately the law of the land has not been followed, as evidence by the 2nd amendment infringements.
     

    printcraft

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    1. Executive Order(s)
    2. {insert} Open the Schools in spite of COVID “For the Children”
    3. {insert} School Shooting by bullied kid unable to socialize following months being locked in home and munching on Ritalin like skittles because mommy can’t handle him being home.
      Swift legislation (Federal and State) “For the Children”
    4. Slow action by SCOTUS waiting for 2A cases to drift through lower courts because they are afraid of the Constitution.
    5. Shovel shortage will rival current Ammo shortage.

    Don't forget: "Kids, turn in your parents and relatives if they have a weapon." campaigns across the country.
    It is happening RIGHT NOW with the "turn in people that went to DC on Jan. 6" Hell, there are billboards in Anderson saying this.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Don't forget: "Kids, turn in your parents and relatives if they have a weapon." campaigns across the country.
    It is happening RIGHT NOW with the "turn in people that went to DC on Jan. 6" Hell, there are billboards in Anderson saying this.
    Mao would be pleased.
     

    d.kaufman

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    Same thing as the Trump EO suspending the payroll tax. Did your check go up? Mine sure didn't.
    I believe that was up to the company to do that. I opted out since it was unknown at the time if it would have to be paid nack
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    No way that happens, IMO. That would be a serious overreach of executive power and I'm fairly certain the Supreme Court would act quickly as it steps on multiple case precedents.

    Same thing as the Trump EO suspending the payroll tax. Did your check go up? Mine sure didn't.
    Mine did. Understand that the "payroll tax" that was suspended was only FICA (OASDI), not federal income tax. Now we'll be paying it back over the course of 2021 with an additional deduction to make up for the portion that was suspended. And actually "suspended" isn't really accurate. "Deferred" is the proper term.
     

    Expat

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    The leftists are lining up with great ideas. Hopefully they go full confiscation like Biden/Harris and their supporters proposed. I am curious how many of us they are willing to kill before they think it is a bad idea.
     

    smittygj

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    So what happens if you are a DOD employee stationed overseas and they make something illegal that you have in long term storage? Or at your original home of record, but you can't get back there to comply? Just something that comes to mind as I'm overseas...
     

    Expat

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    So what happens if you are a DOD employee stationed overseas and they make something illegal that you have in long term storage? Or at your original home of record, but you can't get back there to comply? Just something that comes to mind as I'm overseas...
    If it is like some of the state actions, they will have free turn ins later on as well because they get hardly any compliance at all.
     

    BigRed

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    I, normally stay out of political discussions, but, this is to important to dismiss.
    I believe that there will be executive orders quickly.......
    1. Assault weapons ban 2.0, which include semi auto rifles, mags greater than 10 rounds, "high capacity" semi auto pistols, and suppressors.
    2. There will be NO grandfather clause, so, if you have them, you can't keep them.
    3. There will be NO sunset clause, so that it will never go away unless Congress legislates it away.
    These EOs will be quickly followed up with supporting legislation, to be challenged in the Supreme Court as an unconstitutional challenge. The outcome of which is in much doubt.
    I believe you will be allowed a certain amount of time to "turn in" your registered weapons, then confiscation will begin.
    It's going to be a very stressful and dangerous time for the next 6 months, or so, until this all gets clearer.
    Be prepared, make plans, be ready for a very rough time coming up.


    I know of a man that tried this ******** back in April of 1775. It did not turn out too well for him or for the minions he sent to do his dirty work.
     
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