Yes, but ultimately they are our dollars going in. TK just doesnt get them all. We give PP $20, and they only putt $19.10 of our money into TK's account.In this case it would be site owner taking that hit of the fees
Yes, but ultimately they are our dollars going in. TK just doesnt get them all. We give PP $20, and they only putt $19.10 of our money into TK's account.In this case it would be site owner taking that hit of the fees
I get where you're coming fromYes, but ultimately they are our dollars going in. TK just doesnt get them all. We give PP $20, and they only putt $19.10 of our money into TK's account.
For many years I didn't become a site supporter because I thought I had to have a paypal account.I received a notice that I'm not contributing enough to the forums to be considered an active member and that my site supporter status has expired. When I went to pay my $20 I discovered that Paypal is now one of the options. (I didn't see that when I paid for my first year, I'm sure.)
Paypal is rabidly anti-gun. They freeze the accounts of anyone using their service for firearm transactions.
OK. I will stop supporting any entity that is anti-gun. Now all I have to do is spend 36 hours a day, 8 days a week, researching EVERYTHING I spend money on. Does the company that makes highway lane-line paint support gun rights or not? If not, I suppose I have to give up driving. What about the company that makes the knob on my gear shift, or the cans for my dog food? I spend more than $100,000 every year. How do you propose I investigate every company that is behind every component of everything I buy? Democrats do not support gun rights. Do I have stop paying taxes when a democrat is in office, or just move out of the country? If so, to where? US of A has way more gun freedom than any other country on the planet. I take your point, and it is valid. IMHO, you are carrying it to a quite ridiculous extreme.You are supporting anti gun PayPal by giving them your money via fees. Probably around 90 cents per transaction.
How much looking into your credit card issuer's position on gun rights did you do? Or into the company that makes the plastic and/or the magnetic strip for your card? Or the clearing house that manages your interbank transactions? Or the company that make the paper your monthly statement is printed on?For many years I didn't become a site supporter because I thought I had to have a paypal account.
I then realized I can pay with my credit card without having a paypal account.
Some years back I posted about this realization, but I can't find the post.
How much looking into your credit card issuer's position on gun rights did you do? Or into the company that makes the plastic and/or the magnetic strip for your card? Or the clearing house that manages your interbank transactions? Or the company that make the paper your monthly statement is printed on?
It doesn't have to be all or nothing nor does it require exhaustive research to avoid the companies that make their anti-gun stance readily apparent.OK. I will stop supporting any entity that is anti-gun. Now all I have to do is spend 36 hours a day, 8 days a week, researching EVERYTHING I spend money on. Does the company that makes highway lane-line paint support gun rights or not? If not, I suppose I have to give up driving. What about the company that makes the knob on my gear shift, or the cans for my dog food? I spend more than $100,000 every year. How do you propose I investigate every company that is behind every component of everything I buy? Democrats do not support gun rights. Do I have stop paying taxes when a democrat is in office, or just move out of the country? If so, to where? US of A has way more gun freedom than any other country on the planet. I take your point, and it is valid. IMHO, you are carrying it to a quite ridiculous extreme.
^^THIS^^Meh.
PayPal has always been an option for INGO Site Supporter purchase. From the beginning.
Paypal has also always chosen not to partake in firearm sales. It's their choice and they have been open about it. Choosing not to handle firearm sales does not make a company anti-gun.
Now maybe if Paypal contributes to and supports anti-gun groups, like Walmart and Levi Straus does, then we could call them anti-gun?
^^THIS^^
The issue is like trying to buy strictly American in a global market is hard.
Sticking to companies that haven’t been 100% pro gun or one that hasn’t supported an opposing political agenda you will be hard pressed to find.
And saying you will just boycot is BS and does nothing but maybe make you feel better. Remember Dicks when everyone was supposed to be mad? they didn’t care as gun sales were never their claim to fame they sell more sports stuff to kids and soccer moms than gun stuff to folks like us.
You will be hard pressed to always be 100% aligned with all the companies we have to use that has your same political position cable, clothes medical insurance I could go on but you should get the point.
I know a few folks that buck at eventbright because they lean towards anti gun groups and Canadate but some national training folks use them for convenienceI think PayPal got away from handling gun transactions in fear of liability issues? When the anti's first attempted to sue gun companies and charge card companies for dealing with them, PayPal just opted out?
But yet, your still not a Site Supporter.For many years I didn't become a site supporter because I thought I had to have a paypal account.
I then realized I can pay with my credit card without having a paypal account.
Some years back I posted about this realization, but I can't find the post.
If I boycotted every product that was made in part with parts in the production chain from companies that support something left wing, I'd be nude with no food to eat, vehicle to drive, anyplace to live, etc.How much looking into your credit card issuer's position on gun rights did you do? Or into the company that makes the plastic and/or the magnetic strip for your card? Or the clearing house that manages your interbank transactions? Or the company that make the paper your monthly statement is printed on?
You might want to research the Paypal terms of service.I've had a PayPal business debit since 2007 and a reg account before that.
I've bought guns, ammo and reloading equipment and consumables most likely a few hundred transactions, and have never had a problem using it. Not once.
This. There isnt a problem until there is one.You might want to research the Paypal terms of service.
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Thanks, I'm well aware of PayPal.You might want to research the Paypal terms of service.
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one of the easy ways to do this is to also support local businesses when possible. You're more likely to know the people and that money is more likely to have a greater impact in your community and stay local. so what it's a few dollars more, it all stays local instead of lining corporations that don't really care.You can overthink the problem both directions. I believe it's in our best interest to NOT support anti-gun companies.