Snake ID. Jon Boat Cobra?

[DoggyDaddy]

How about this one?

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Rat snake?

 

[BigRed]

Rat snake?

Really?

It's not a great pic...guy was guessing copperhead, but that would be pretty rare in central Indiana, wouldn't it?

I thought maybe a timber rattler, but can't see the tail and it's touch to tell the shape of the head.

Either would be rare in central.

 

[BigRed]

I always think of a black snake when I think rat snake, but I am by no means a snake expert

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Really?

It's not a great pic...guy was guessing copperhead, but that would be pretty rare in central Indiana, wouldn't it?

I thought maybe a timber rattler, but can't see the tail and it's touch to tell the shape of the head.

Either would be rare in central.

Not a copperhead. Doesn't look like a timber rattler to me. Rat snakes have a variety of markings.



Paging @spencer rifle

 

[spencer rifle]

How about this one?

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Nerodia water snake. Harmless but violent.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Nerodia water snake. Harmless but violent.

I figured you'd come through!

 

[red_zr24x4]

Looks like new side by side time to me, that one would be burnt up

 

[BigRed]

Nerodia water snake. Harmless but violent.

Interesting...have never even heard of it. The area has a lot of ponds/ springs/ and is near the White River which would seem to make more sense than a copperhead or timber rattler in central IN

 

[Rhinestone Pete]

Definitely looks like the Nerodia. Same pattern and markings.

 

[buckwacker]

Nerodia water snake. Harmless but violent.

Well I'm not sure I'd call them harmless. They have teeth and prone to bite when you try to grab them. They'll leave a mark. Ask me how I know.

 

[Leo]

That snake has cool markings. Wonder if I can get a Hi-Point 10mm Cerakoted in that pattern.

I have an electric guitar the top is covered with snake skin. I thought it was cool to look at, but it is rough enough to grind the skin off my hand.

 

[Mij]

How about this one?

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Obviously, hole in the dashboard snake. Duh!

 

[BigRed]

Obviously, hole in the dashboard snake. Duh!

Apparently, the guy's wife went out to move the vehicle...jumped in and grabbed the wheel, then the visitor crossed her arm.

I wasn't there, but apparently the scream was so loud folks in the area thought somebody was attacked.

 

[Mij]

Been wondering the woods, streams n fields of Ind. for over 70 years. Only saw with my own eyes one rattle snake. In a pile of logs at a saw mill along the Wabash outside the town of Attica Ind. Heard it before I saw it. Presumably a Timber Rattler. He went his way, I went mine….in my truck at as fast as the old Ford would go. After I came home, so about mid 1970’s.

 

[Mij]

Apparently, the guy's wife went out to move the vehicle...jumped in and grabbed the wheel, then the visitor crossed her arm.

I wasn't there, but apparently the scream was so loud folks in the area thought somebody was attacked.

They would have heard the same scream from me, followed by a loud bang, or 5 or 6 depending on my aim that day.

 

[BigRed]

Fun sidebar:

Went hog hunting down in Texas. Took a buddy that is "deathly afraid of snakes". He must have asked about a dozen times on the way down about the rattle snake situation where we were hunting.

Got down there and met the guy who was letting us hunt his land. As we were getting ready to head out, I asked the guy what the rattle snake situation was like where we were hunting.

Guy said, with his Texas draw, "I've been here for a long time...I've only seen one rattler and it was about 5 miles from where you're hunting".

Then, after a good pause, "Lots of copperheads though...see them all the time".

LOL!!!!

Never came across any...did come across a ton of black widow spiders though.

 

[Mij]

ETS’d out of Ft. Bliss. Had about 4 weeks to go and only about 3 or 4 days worth of real records to clear up.

They took about 1000+ rank g.i.’s out to De-Dudd White Sands missile range. Lined us out over the desert, 15 mtr. spacing, said march. Never saw or heard so many rattlers every single sage bunch or any shade near cactus had a snake or five in it. Those were the days.

 

[BigMoose]

Nerodia water snake. Harmless but violent.

Yes.. those snakes are bitey A-holes

 

[Hoosier Carry]

Eastern Hogsett.

 

[freekforge]

All snakes can flatten their head out like that if you stomp it hard enough.

I saw a timber rattler on atterbury one time. Just about put my foot through the floor of the Polaris to get out of a 5 mile radius as fast as possible