Serious topic, what if they ban the AR-15

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    IndyDave1776

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    My wife and I have been debating lately about the current political reality, historical precedent regarding specific firearm limitations like the Brady Bill, and the potential of specific firearms like the AR-15 being limited during the upcoming democratic majority in DC.

    I have been trying to understand what happened then and what could realistically happen now with regards to current owners of these firearms. Would current owners have to turn them in? Are they grandfathered in? Can anyone relate to what happened during Brady and how they handled it then?

    I don't want to go down the conspiracy rabbit-hole here, so let's just assume another similar Brady Bill gets passed that limits guns like the AR-15, what do you think would happen with regards to current owners?
    Bringing the thread back from the rabbit hole, I see the following:

    1. The leftists of today are far more brazen and hard-core than their counterparts of 25 or 30 years ago.

    2. The hate is far more intense today. They have made it clear that they don't want merely to tip the balance of political power but want to eradicate us. If in doubt consider the talk about sending us to reeducation camps. THEY ARE NOT JOKING! Don't ever forget that.

    3. They have no respect for the law, from the Constitution down. They will use it when convenient, just as Satan will use scripture to prove a point, but they despise it, especially the Constitution itself and have no intention of honoring it. By extension, don't expect to see police disarming their brownshirts.

    4. Don't be surprised to see Biden spending Wednesday afternoon unveiling a knee-deep stack of executive orders. Even if they don't hold up in court it will buy enough time to get crap through Congress.

    5. Don't expect any grandfather clauses. Today's leftists are applying a no compromise push to get everything they want at once. Further, they do not want merely to slow or stop the introduction of more weapons suitable for defense but want them eliminated altogether. They are willing to accept nothing short of their final goal of us being left with our naked butts sticking up in the air.

    6. Commie Joe said he intends to define semiautomatic weapons and "high capacity" magazines as NFA weapons. BELIEVE HIM! Contrary to the assertions of a couple of our resident idiots, we are in for a full court press. This isn't going to be forgotten rhetoric as it has been at some points in the past. The sharks taste blood in the water and are closing in on us.

    7. All told, you had better be prepared to either roll over and turn in everything you have that doesn't just scream for Elmer Fudd or else be prepared to go all in on the cold dead hands thing. Then again, they could go for the Fudd guns at the same time teaching a hard lesson about throwing people on your own side under the bus for a false sense of assurance.
     

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    foszoe

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    They REALLY don't care about compliance.

    They just don't want them out of the house.

    You will get charged IF someone breaks into your house and you report a theft of such items which means you won't.
    You will get charged IF seen in public with such items, which means you won't take them out in public.
    You will get charged IF someone see them and turns you in, so you will hide them and not let anyone see them.
    You will get questioned if you have 2A paraphernalia on your car, social media or wear 2A items in public, so you won't.
    You will get questioned if you take them outside and practice because your neighbors will hear them, so you won't.

    99% of the battle is won by the outlawing of them.

    We like to think of a dramatic door to door operation and THAT is where we make our FINAL stand, but we don't realize they have already won just by passing the law.
     
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    Why are so many willing to talk about shooting back but want to be grey men in everyday life now?

    When people won't wear a pro gun shirt, put a pro gun sticker on their car out of fear now, I am not so sure they'll resort to shooting later.
    "grey man" is the new camoflauge
     

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    We like to think of a dramatic door to door operation and THAT is where we make our FINAL stand, but we don't realize they have already won just by passing the law.

    Passing a law with <5% compliance is going to accelerate the belief that the Emperor has no clothes. And if there's anything they hate, it's being laughed at. So I fully expect them to double or triple down to show us the error of our ways.

    Hell, look how hardcore they're going already after what happened last week.

    We didn't have 25,000 troops in DC after 9/11 ... if there's one thing you can count on the Democrats to do, it's overplay their hand.
     

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    7. All told, you had better be prepared to either roll over and turn in everything you have that doesn't just scream for Elmer Fudd or else be prepared to go all in on the cold dead hands thing. Then again, they could go for the Fudd guns at the same time teaching a hard lesson about throwing people on your own side under the bus for a false sense of assurance.

    Don't forget, see something say something campaigns. Using family as informants via the schools.
    It's a short jump to set up criminal charges if you know someone has them and don't report it to the authorities.
    Can't happen? Look at history.
    Hell, there are ***holes on here who would rat, believe it.
     

    rooster

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    "grey man" is the new camoflauge
    1st off Grey man is out the window bc of your participation here. Powerful government and LEO are calling anyone who supports the Jan 6 event a terrorist.

    I would honestly be shocked if a FISA warrant hasn’t already been issued for INGO and AR15 to name a few. That was the point of the story of a French person sending money to the Jan 6 participants. They have already established foreign persons involved so FISA could be used to “prevent further terrorism”.

    second off gathering a list of 20-40% of gun owners, at least those active in the community, would be super easy to do in 2021. Remember that match you signed up for using practiscore?, that gun part you ordered and had a confirmation sent to your Gmail, you bought something at a gun store with a CC?, and the list goes on. All this data is out there and could be weaponized to make the door to door thing pretty easy.

    More likely than door to door would be use of a bench warrant though for not turning them in. Then when you got stopped for a speeding ticket you would break out in cuffs so fast it isn’t even funny. Why go to your house when gov can just wait for you to have an interaction with LEO. Then the cop won’t even probably see that it’s because you own guns so he will feel good that he is doing his job. Probably will think you just another low life saying “idk why I have a warrant”.

    anyway this is all getting too dark enjoy pondering how your own demise will come. The founding fathers made a snake flag for a reason.

    *message to LEO and mods, this comment is not in support of violence or insurrection simply a commentary on current events and possibly a good setting for a thriller novel.
     

    BigRed

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    "But, if the government wishes to confiscate the guns of peaceable citizens, it should be prepared to find most Americans unwilling to comply—just as they were in 1775."

    Good article.
     

    DadSmith

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    I told my socialist friend when Biden whom he voted for tells him to turn in his Bushmaster ACR which are running over $3200 right now that I would buy it for $201.99. He then said he would not comply to said law. Did he just flip from leftist to somewhat right?
     

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    For the record, I do not currently own one, but...

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation has estimated that approximately 5 million to 10 million AR-15 style rifles exist in the U.S.

    That's a proverbial **** ton of them to have to account for.
     

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