Selling Reloads?

[cb46184]

Is it illegal to offer reloads for sale if they are not from a licensed manufacturer? I know some people stipulate they are selling for components only but, otherwise, is this illegal?

 

[Usmccookie]

Idk about legality, but I would caution people to stay away from reloads. The exception being and trusted manufacturer. In my naivety, I got burnt by a small time Reloading business last time ammo got scarce.

 

[Biggredchev]

It is illegal for a person to sell their reloads for profit without being a licensed manufacturer.

Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use. [18 U.S.C. 922(a) and 923(a); 27 CFR 478.41]

www.atf.gov

 

[fullmetaljesus]

You need an ffl to sell reloads.

 

[Mike Maddox]

Need the correct license, but there are some workarounds.

 

[XtremeVel]

What was said above. FFL 06 if I remember right

Also, if they really wanted, they also could go after you for some tax issue last I knew.

 

[Bill2905]

I wonder what kind of insurance you would have to carry to be in that business. It's probably not cheap.

 

[Leadeye]

I remember some companies like Star reloading that made and sold reloads commercially. I can't think of any today, liability may have pushed them out.

 

[EyeCarry]

Devil's advocate post:

Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?​

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit.​

No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

So if you are not doing it for your "livelihood" AND "profit" would it be allowed? Let's say, oh, 5 boxes of 100 for two or three people and you only charge five bucks over your components. Liability issues aside, what says the INGO/lawyer crowd?

 

[tsm]

Devil's advocate post:

Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?​

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit.​

No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

So if you are not doing it for your "livelihood" AND "profit" would it be allowed? Let's say, oh, 5 boxes of 100 for two or three people and you only charge five bucks over your components. Liability issues aside, what says the INGO/lawyer crowd?

Liability is where it’s at. You’re going to make $25 profit on 5 boxes, and when one of your customers has a split case, blows up his gun, puts an eye out and successfully sues you for $250K, you’ll be wishing you’d tried another hobby!

 

[OurDee]

Can you cover a lawyers retainer for $5.00?

 

[churchmouse]

We have been doing some serious looking at those selling reloads in the classifieds especially for idiotic money.

 

[EyeCarry]

Just to be clear, I don't want to, nor plan on doing this. The question I pose is only about the legality of it with regard to the BATFE and the aforementioned situation.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I wont even GIVE people my reloads due to the liability risk.

I did make one batch of 25 for a friend at church to try having never shot flat points before, but those were essentially hand loaded, with the charge double checked with a scale.

 

[Hkindiana]

I ONLY reload for myself, and refuse to buy (or sell) reloads. I have been with two guys who blew up pistols by “saving money” and buying reloads

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I wont even GIVE people my reloads due to the liability risk.

I did make one batch of 25 for a friend at church to try having never shot flat points before, but those were essentially hand loaded, with the charge double checked with a scale.

That's generally where I'm at. The one exception was loading some 6.5x53R Dutch ammo (pretty much unobtanium) for myself and 2 other INGOers, but we all shared the cost of components and I basically just provided the labor for free. They were loaded on a single stage press, with each round checked and double checked, and I was the first to test fire them.

 

[Nazgul]

Family shoots my reloads, with me, usually in my guns.
The one shooting buddy would buy the components and we would assemble them, mostly me. He passed away last year so only family now.

Don't believe I would ever sell them. Sold my 348 Winchester and components, pulled apart all the reloads I had before shipping.

Don

 

[NHT3]

Like a lot of other enterprises, it could be legal and at the same time a very bad idea.

 

[Bratch1976]

Place in NWI is all reloads. They sell it at just about every gun show. I think I’ve heard about just about everything happening over the years with their stuff. Somehow they stay in business. Every company that makes ammunition including the big names have issues with their ammunition the key is if they cover it or not. Any reputable ammunition company will cover the gun and replace the ammunition when people have problems. A company like the one in NWI is selling reloads. Other companies try to say they have remanufactured when making reloads. Then yet other companies manufacture all of their ammunition out of brand new components making brand new ammunition. All of the above however have their issues the key is how they cover it with their customers. My son and I have worked for ammunition companies for years now. We have seen all kinds of issues and the key is always how the company backs up their product. There’s definitely a lot of peoples reloads for sale at the gun shows. It’s hard to know what you’re buying at those places. Always important to buy from somebody reputable.

 

[singlesix]

Just to be clear, I don't want to, nor plan on doing this. The question I pose is only about the legality of it with regard to the BATFE and the aforementioned situation.

To this point, it maybe legal, but it will cost you to prove it if Big Brother comes after you. Justice maybe blind, but it's not free.