Rise of the optics.

[jakemartens]

This brings up a great point. Many are not prepared for the attention one has to pay with a RDS on routine maintenance/upkeep or care. (Which why many that preach RDS but blast someone that wants to run a 1911 sort of the same in a way and we’ve seen some folks (or brand they choice) up to the task and some that are not.)

Jake is right. My words there can be a lot of gremlins can come out in a match or hard use class where you run100-1,200 rounds in a 2 day class.

Oh not you didn't... not the 1911 argument?!?!?!
Might as well throw in 9mm vs 45acp
or
40sw isn't dead
should all be carrying a 357mag anyway
10mm for the win
Handgun for Home Defense vs Shotgun vs Rifle


This thread will never end..

 

[cedartop]

I have a C-More RTS2 on a Carry Optics gun pushing 50k rounds no issue, and a SRO die in less than 500 rounds. I can give 1k examples of "mine has xxx no issues" and "this pos died within xxx rounds"
I wouldn't carry an RMR with 80k rounds on as my EDC, or spend match fees, travel fees, ammo etc to go to a match with that. To each their own.
I do know that just like most things, they break when they are being used, not when they are in the safe, in the holster on stuck in your underwear drawer.

I don't carry that gun, it was my training gun with a duplicate for carry. My experience with slide mounted dot guns is pretty broad, I have seen what you are talking about, but if I thought I had to replace a dot every year I wouldn't bother with them. For match guns the SRO on my Q5 is not the original because the first one didn't last the first session. This one has been good for 2 seasons and about 30,000 rounds so far. It has been more reliable than my Walther.

 

[Twangbanger]

...I would expect the next tech innovations will be in recoil management. Microchips and sensors to tune the spring response, etc...

God help us if the gun designers are mountain bikers...

 

[kingnereli]

In a match this past Sunday, for the first time, I was the only shooter on my squad using the little bumps on my gun to aim.

 

[04FXSTS]

This weekend was the Atlanta Conservation Club 3rd annual IDPA CCP Clasic 5-6-2023 (Compact Carry Pistol). I have never shot this because I tend to stick to revolver. This year the match was opened up to include the CO, (Carry Optics) division. I looked at the results and there were 30 shooting CCP and 58 shooting CO.
Even if I did decide to shoot this in the future I would go with the CCP as I have no interest in CO. However, it seems this is the wave of the future, before long there will be two divisions; CO and everything else. Jim.

 

[jakemartens]

In less than 5 years optics growth in USPSA competition has almost doubled. It has seen an increase in Steel Challenge as well in the same time period.


71% of USPSA year to date 2023 is optics divisions
(2022 ended at 40%)




74% in Steel Challenge is Optics






This is 2018 - 36% optics




55% in Steel Challenge in 2018

 

[2-Alpha]

At the last match I went to I won Production, but there were only 3 of us. Everyone ahead of me overall was CO, except for one Open gun. I was the slowest shooter on every stage—because I was struggling to see the sights in the indoor lighting.

Old eyes is making me consider switching to CO too, but all of the new kids are starting there, and I don’t think it’ll be long before the iron sights are “retro” like revolver division.

 

[E7Wrangler]

Dim lighting and aging eyes are why I just bought my first optic ready handgun. Just picked it up today! I have enjoyed reading the discussion and look forward to trying my gun once I finish my RDS research, buy and install. I am holding out to get some experience before I make any pronouncements on which I like best irons vs RDS.