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  • BugI02

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    Imagine how much better the organization will be if the focus is on retaining competent, self-motivated employees rather than worrying about supporting substandard employees with policies that affect quality of life for everyone.
    How is that in ANY way compatible with the current DEI fad? And which one do you think will prevail?
     

    wtburnette

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    I couldn't do that. Three monitors would be hard to move around. :):

    On top of what you guys said, I will add that I have a better setup at home.

    The first month of WFH, I bought new 27" monitors for myself and dumped the 24s from work.

    The second month, I bought a new chair, which is superior to the piece of :poop: I had at the office that was killing my back and neck.

    Both of those were more than paid for by the money I saved not going to Chicago everyday.

    Plus like WT, I have an office here instead of a cubicle.

    Thankfully the two 1920x1200 24" monitors I bought at my last employer seem to work just fine for what I do. One of these days I'll upgrade and possibly add another monitor, but at this point I'm good.
     

    BugI02

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    I have no idea what that quote has to do with what I posted... :scratch:
    I think It is designed to showcase the fact that he has never worked for a large corporation

    Whenever I hear that 'hire the best and brightest, everyone pulling towards the goal of being the best' pablum I have only to think of game development or tech companies (or socialist propaganda) to get a dose of cold reality
     

    KLB

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    I think It is designed to showcase the fact that he has never worked for a large corporation

    Whenever I hear that 'hire the best and brightest, everyone pulling towards the goal of being the best' pablum I have only to think of game development or tech companies (or socialist propaganda) to get a dose of cold reality
    Employee engagement is a big deal for my corp at least. They actually do try to make their employees happy and keep them. Diversity comes into play more with hiring new people. Then they start spouting off about making sure there is a diverse candidate pool and all that.

    I work for a manufacturer though. They are very different than tech.
     

    wtburnette

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    I think It is designed to showcase the fact that he has never worked for a large corporation

    Whenever I hear that 'hire the best and brightest, everyone pulling towards the goal of being the best' pablum I have only to think of game development or tech companies (or socialist propaganda) to get a dose of cold reality

    Yeah, they used to say at my company that they hired "the best person for the position". I don't hear that any more with DEI garbage being pushed down our throats, as they would be major hypocrites to even suggest they were hiring due to talent.
     

    actaeon277

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    And AI (at least until CyberDyne manifests) will be a model employee, always loyal and hardworking as well as always available (because it is a box attached to all the other boxes) and it will not mind its managers constantly looking over its shoulder and checking its work

    And no InfoSec concerns, proprietary info never leaves the building
    Until it takes over the earth and destroys humanity.
    You forgot that part.
     

    bwframe

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    Thankfully the two 1920x1200 24" monitors I bought at my last employer seem to work just fine for what I do. One of these days I'll upgrade and possibly add another monitor, but at this point I'm good.

    Noticed this one in the classies. Don't know if it's of interest or not? ...

     

    KLB

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    27" 4K is good for gaming, not so much for work. I have two 1080P and one 4K. Things get way too small at 4K. That one is a video conferencing board, I use mostly just for meetings.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Just some crazy way out there thinking that could never happen. LOL

    Bug is right that AI will likely take its chunk.

    I expect near 60 year old folks to have productivity down pat but newer and younger workers need supervision, and camaraderie.

    So silly of me to put the pieces together and see a potential issue and warn others, but that is what sheepdogs do…
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    KLB

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    Jeez you guys... how bad is your eyesight? I work on a 15" laptop, and I'm 62. :):
    There is no way I could do that. At any one time, I have probably 20+ browser tabs in three different browsers, 10+ apps running, plus Teams and Webex. When you realize that a 4K monitor is 4X the resolution of 1080P, it kind of explains what I said.

    I'm a spritely 56. Using a PC is one time I generally don't need glasses. get any further away, and I definitely do.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    Jeez you guys... how bad is your eyesight? I work on a 15" laptop, and I'm 62. :):
    This has been (for me, so far) the worst part of getting old. You’re just a year older than me and if I didn’t have trifocals, I could drive, read, or type this post in on my iPad. It really got bad about 5 years ago...and accelerated ever since.
     

    wtburnette

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    Noticed this one in the classies. Don't know if it's of interest or not? ...


    Nope. Was great until close to 50, but then needed readers to be able to see anything clearly, screen or page. The two 1920x1200 24" monitors I have on my work computer or the 32" 2560x1440 monitor I have on my home computer are fine. Anything smaller like the monitor in the ad is not for my 55 y/o eyes... :(
     

    actaeon277

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    Wow! Pretty cool seeing this thread get resurrected, and I'm surprised at the lack of snide remarks from people whose jobs are such that they can't possibly work from home (I did read most of the thread, and if it's there, I missed it).

    Of course I saw the standard doomsayer remarks about foreign outsourcing and poor productivity, but of course if the work environment has those issues with work-from-home, they probably would have had them without it.

    I started WFH full time from around the time this thread started. It has been awesome. I know it has saved both me and my employer time and money. I can sleep an hour later. I spend much less on gas. I don't have to eat fast food for lunch. If I need to take a leak, I can walk 30 feet to do so instead of 300 feet. If I want to refill my water glass or get a Pepsi, I can wlak 20 feet instead of 200 feet. I don't have "time burglars" coming up to my desk to chit chat 30 minutes out of my workday.

    My productivity is at the same high level as it has always been. I don't know about anyone else's productivity in my section, and I don't really care. That's the supervisor's problem. He has no complaints about my productivity.

    Now, my supervisor pissed me off a cuple years ago, and there's no way to fix that one. Since then, I have been waiting for that last straw to be added to break this camel's back. With the Covid hysteria winding down, there is talk of returning to the office, and that may just be the straw. No big deal for me, I'll just retire a little early. I just don't see myself being happy back in the office. There is so much less stress in my life without having to deal with all that comes along with that.

    I would like to add just one thing: MS Teams sucks. :cool:

    "I'm surprised at the lack of snide remarks from people whose jobs are such that they can't possibly work from home"

    Oh, the temptation was there. But I resisted.
     

    wtburnette

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    Different jobs. There are jobs that will never be remote and there are jobs that can be. When I worked IT support, I never worked remote. It was technically possible to do it with the right amount of staff, but most companies I worked for ran with far too few support people, so you never knew when you'd have to be onsite to visit a customer's desk or the server room to fix an issue. I thought working from home would be nice, but knew that I'd never get to do it in that role.

    When I started working in Information Security, I was immediately allowed to work remotely 2 days a week. After a short while, I wondered we couldn't work 100% from home as the work was not something that needed much interaction with others and what interaction there was, was via conference calls anyway.

    At my current employer I asked my manager why we couldn't work 100% from home and she said that executive management doesn't like remote workers as "it's too hard to make sure they're not sitting at home goofing off". The COVID lockdowns proved that wrong in a big way and now I'm living the dream.

    Will this job be sent overseas? Maybe. I doubt it seriously, but am not stupid enough to use the word never. If so, oh well. I'll ride this wave as long as I can. I can always fall back on IT work, my management skills, or I can train for another role. I'm old but this dog can learn new tricks if he has to... ;)
     

    Ingomike

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    she said that executive management doesn't like remote workers as "it's too hard to make sure they're not sitting at home goofing off". The COVID lockdowns proved that wrong in a big way
    I have read in articles discussing remote work, that during the lockdowns, employees were fearful of so many things including losing their jobs and therefore were more diligent in working from home than some employment advisers expect them to be long term.
     

    breakingcontact

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    I get WAY more done at home than I ever did in an office. Much of that work before the sun even comes up when I would have been sleeping or driving before.

    I can say, I think we have a lot more meetings working remote, but my workaround on that is to just start my day very early to get my work done.
     
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