Researchers Say Zuckerburg Bought Election, Explain How...

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I have raised this issue before but don't believe people really understand just how big a deal this is. Think what was actually done. Outside of our legislators, 85% of the money the ENTIRE fed and state governments sent out for the election, was additionally targeted to democratic areas to have election officials, presumably nonpartisan officials, get out the vote. Similar money was not given to more conservative areas. This is unequal treatment under the law in my book. This must be stopped...

"During the 2020 election, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg spent hundreds of millions of dollars to turn out likely Democratic voters. But this wasn’t traditional political spending. He funded a targeted, private takeover of government election operations by nominally non-partisan — but demonstrably ideological — non-profit organizations."

"Analysis conducted by our team demonstrates this money significantly increased Joe Biden’s vote margin in key swing states. This unprecedented merger of public election offices with private resources and personnel is an acute threat to our republic, and should be the focus of electoral reform efforts moving forward."

"The Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL) and The Center for Election Innovation and Research (CEIR) passed a staggering $419.5 million of Zuckerberg’s money into local government elections offices, and it came with strings attached. Every CTCL and CEIR grant spelled out in great detail the conditions under which the grant money was to be used."

"This is not a matter of Democrats outspending Republicans. Private funding of election administration was virtually unknown in the American political system before the 2020 election."

"The amount of additional money these groups poured into elections offices in Democrat-voting areas was truly staggering. To put it in perspective, federal and state matching funds for COVID-19-related election expenses in 2020 totaled $479.5 million. The CTCL and CEIR money totaled $419.5 million. These two private non-profits were responsible for an 85 percent increase in total additional election funding — and that largess was concentrated in a relatively small number of heavily Democratic municipalities."

 

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I'm not as upset about this as you might be.

Nowhere in TFA is there an implication that votes were paid for, or that invalid ballots were cast. Which is a shocker in today's outrage, if I'm honest.

If there were citizens that were encouraged and aided to cast their ballot for the candidate of their choosing (even if those citizens were targeted based on their affiliation), then I applaud that effort. Would you spend your money to encourage ALL voters, or would you assist those who were more likely to help you advance your position?

This isn't public dollars being spent in a lopsided manner. It's not even money being funneled through public offices/officials. This is private money, given to private (albeit non-profit) organizations that have always been targeted at liberal voters.

Everyone of us, and any other private donor(s) could have / did do the same through the NRA, GOA, 2AF or other entities that could have "got out the vote". It just didn't happen on the same scale or with (any?) direct action. Our money/effort was spent in a different manner - ineffectively it might seem. The Zuck took that massive analysis warehouse and aimed his shots carefully, making critical hits that best supported his goals.

We were plainly outspent, judging by the per capita resources from the article, but assisting anyone in the exercise of their rights should be a model we all aspire to.

Hits count. Aim carefully and for effect.
 

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Interesting info, maybe at the end of it all we'll find out that it all depends on what the legal definition of stolen election really "is".;)
 

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This isn't public dollars being spent in a lopsided manner. It's not even money being funneled through public offices/officials. This is private money, given to private (albeit non-profit) organizations that have always been targeted at liberal voters.

You do not understand the article or what happened. Xuckerburg funneled the money through purported non profits who then gave that money to those that run the government local elections, but only certain locations got funds. These are government offices that received the funds, they agreed to stipulations to get it, some are detailed in the article.

It creates an equal protection issue to me when a democratic stronghold has several times the money to run their election while conservative one gets no money.
 

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So has your position changed and you no longer believe the election was stolen by fraud?

Not at all! This was part of what funded and facilitated the fraud. Part of the stipulations I read was they were to hire plenty of elections workers from democratic supporting organizations. That is like where the AZ tainted ballots came from. Another stipulation was the drop boxes, you know like the one in GA that the camera saw under 20 people drop off but it had 2000 votes in it.

"Big CTCL and CEIR money had nothing to do with traditional campaign finance, lobbying, or other expenses that are related to increasingly expensive modern elections. It had to do with financing the infiltration of election offices at the city and county level by left-wing activists, and using those offices as a platform to implement preferred administrative practices, voting methods, and data-sharing agreements, as well as to launch intensive outreach campaigns in areas heavy with Democratic voters."

"For instance, CTCL/CEIR funded self-described “vote navigators” in Wisconsin to “assist voters, potentially at their front doors, to answer questions, assist in ballot curing … and witness absentee ballot signatures,” and a temporary staffing agency affiliated with Stacey Abrams called “Happy Faces” counting the votes amidst the election night chaos in Fulton County, Georgia."

"CTCL demanded the promotion of universal mail-in voting through suspending election laws, extending deadlines that favored mail-in over in-person voting, greatly expanding opportunities for “ballot curing,” expensive bulk mailings, and other lavish “community outreach” programs that were directed by private activists."

"CTCL drove the proliferation of unmonitored private dropboxes (which created major chain of custody issues) and opportunities for novel forms of “mail-in ballot electioneering,” allowed for the submission of numerous questionable post-election-day ballots, and created opportunities for illegal ballot harvesting."

"CTCL greatly increased funding for temporary staffing and poll workers, which supported the infiltration of election offices by paid Democratic Party activists, coordinated through a complex web of left-leaning non-profit organizations, social media platforms, and social media election influencers."
 

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Whether it will be proven as fraudulent or criminal (not likely) the fact remains that we were “color revolution-ed.”


I read the article and don't put a lot of stock in it. A big factor in Trump winning 2016 was Clinton's high handed treatment of the once mighty union vote. Those machines aren't what they used to be, but in states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, they are still there. Those machines had no problem with "union buddy Joe" and that pushed the balance on those three states into his column.

There's plenty of election fraud to go around and always has been, some places it's so bad it's been a running joke for years, but tolerated, sort of like a drunken uncle at Christmas. I think there was more fraud in 2020 and it was organized on a national level by an unprecedented amount of money coming from sources both foreign and domestic. Would that fraud have been enough to turn the election if say Bernie had been running instead of Joe, we'll probably never know. It was there ,and it will be back, the unknown question is how big of a factor it it?

A positive I hope we take away from this as a nation is to change how we see the drunken uncle at Christmas, and not invite him back until he's sober.
 

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Do you see any significant changes that are or have taken place?

I don't like to be pessimistic, but election fraud has been around a long time because leadership benefits from it. It's a risk reward business decision and currently there's not much risk but a big reward. I would like to see that aspect of it change, so the drug dealer harvesting ballots, the political operative working the election process, and the politician who benefits all do 50 years on a chain gang filling pot holes or sorting trash in a recycling center with absolutely no possibility for parole. Tampering with election should carry huge sentences as you won't catch everybody and it's important to make examples of the ones you do.
 

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In cities like Chicago and Philadelphia the vote fraud is built into the system. There is no "conspiracy" where an edict from on high comes down, the system knows what to do.

If you have never read about this it is simultaneously infuriating and facinating...
 

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Someday all you will have to do to assume the presidency is pay the law firms that sit at the top of the machines in various areas. I don't like to sound pessimistic, but that is where we are heading.
 

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