Recovery Winch?

[wcd]

Yeah its that time of the year. Tractor is stuck not up to the axle but stuck. So I am thinking of either mounting a winch on the front bumper or using a receiver mounted 3 point adapter on the older tractor. I am looking at a 12k pound pull capacity model. Not understanding winches I am not sure if I could mount it to the tractor and anchor the opposite end to a tree to keep the winch from pulling the lighter tractor forward versus assisting the other tractor out?

 

[OurDee]

 

[boogieman]

What you are talking about should work as long as the winch is strong enough and the tree is strong enough.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Oh, my bad... I thought you said recovery wench.

 

[indyjohn]

Here is EVERYTHING you need to know about extracting stuck equipment.

https://www.extension.purdue.edu/extmedia/ppp/ppp-98.pdf

 

[femurphy77]

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Oh, my bad... I thought you said recovery wench.

Yeah, I was going here myself.

 

[actaeon277]

Remember, winch ratings are for when the object is a flat, level pull, on a hard surface.
Mud or hill is going to affect the rating.
Also, you might need to add a second battery.

 

[Ingomike]

Oh, my bad... I thought you said recovery wench.

I was thinking he had a divorce we hadn't heard about...

 

[Ingomike]

Sometimes things are best left to pros. If you are beyond what you are prepared for, call a wrecker service and don't tear anything up. Why buy equipment when the plan should be not to do this again.

 

[eldirector]

Remember, winch ratings are for when the object is a flat, level pull, on a hard surface.
Mud or hill is going to affect the rating.
Also, you might need to add a second battery.

They are? I've always known the rating as maximum pull before stall. I've used a 500# come along to move a 7000# vehicle without issue.

I've also stalled a 8000# rated winch trying to pull a 4500# Jeep out of the mud. Solved with a double-line pull, effectively making upping the pulling power to 16K#.

Back to the OP: unless you really want a winch, I wouldn't bother just for a 1-time tractor recovery. A 10K rated strap/chain and your other tractor will likely do it. Even a Hi-lift and a chain (and tree or something else heavy) would likely do it, just slowly.

 

[printcraft]

 

[actaeon277]

Winch Bin » Winch Capacity Ratings – What Do They Really Mean?

www.winchbin.com

 

[actaeon277]

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It says pulling on an incline or hill affects it.
If a 6k winch was rated to dead lift 6k, then a hill wouldn't matter.


Also, how many wraps of line are on the drum affect the rating, due to torque.
More wraps, more torque, less capability.


Yes, a snatch-block will increase your capability.
And will increase how much line you use.

 

[printcraft]

Yes, a snatch-block will increase your capability.
And will increase how much line you use.

Aren't those standard equipment on a wench?

 

[eldirector]

Choosing a Winch - mikesjeep.com

Discover the performance differences between a wide range of winches when applied to a real-world recovery scenario.

www.mikesjeep.com

Max line pull = maximum pull before winch stalls. Yes, it is impacted by the number of "wraps" on the drum. The rating stamped on your winch is typically with a single layer on the drum.

An 8K winch should dead-lift 8K.

You can actually lift a vehicle with an installed winch, though I would not recommend it:

Extreme Jeep lift by COMEUP Seal 9.5rsi winch

The ComeUp Seal 9.5rsi winch that lifted a 3,500 pound Jeep from a crane was impressive in a several ways. The winch was equipped with 100 feet of 10mm rope. With about 8 – 10 feet of rope off the winch that was mounted to the Jeep, the winch was pulling on the fourth or […]

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A bad idea not because of line pull, but because most vehicle winches don't have brakes rated for overhead lifting.

I think the "buy a winch 1.5x your GVWR" is just overly-simplified for the layman. I also think the explanation of "a hill" is overly-simplified.

 

[actaeon277]

Aren't those standard equipment on a wench?

How did I know that was coming

 

[printcraft]

must resist...

 

[Chewie]

must resist...

Resistance is futile!

 

[wcd]

Wondering how a hand operated one might work? looks like there are some pretty stout ones out there that people report pulling Jeep’s back onto road with? Almost wondering if it would work, added benefit would be stretching fences as needed.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Snatchblocks are and effective way to increase your winches ability 2-3 times depending on how many you use.
Also don't forget winch line dampeners