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Penciling it in yet again. There is always something going on during the timing of this event. Always.
hoosierdaddy1976
I Can't Believe it's not Shooter
You kids have fun, that day is my daughter's graduation party.
Hobart seen a bit of action here lately. Furniture store went up in flames overnight
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Overnight Fire Destroys Building - Region News Source
Shortly before midnight Tuesday, Hobart Fire Department responded to a fire at a Furniture and Matress Outlet, 1111 W. Ridge. First arriving personnel found fire through the roof. Adjacent businesses suffered some smoke and water damage, Hobart Fire said. No injuries were reported. This fire is...
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I know this is not a gun forum but wondering about ultra-light bullets.
I'm so old that at one point I learned that low velocity (approx 850 feet per second) 230 grain FMJ 45acp was the ultimate self defense ammunition.
Now I'm seriously considering lightweight (50 to 75 grain) 9mm at 1600 to 2000 feet per second for self defense.
The advantages of the ultra-light + ultra velocity ammo are multiple but include very low recoil and seriously increased energy transfer as measured by foot pounds of energy (at short ranges).
Examples include but may not be limited to:
Liberty Ammo 50 grain, 2040 fps, 462 ft lbs energy . . .
Advanced PDF 65 grain, 1695 fps, 416 ft lbs energy . . .
Cor-Bon's 90 grain, 1500 fps, 450 ft lbs energy . . .
NovX's 65 grain, 1730 fps, 432 ft lbs energy . . .
Cor-Bon is probably the closest thing to a 'name' brand in this group. The major name brands don't seem to offer this ultra-light stuff. Hornady has some 100 grain ammo, which they market to women as low recoil (they even donate a portion to Breast Cancer research) but I'm not sure it is as serious as some of the above brands. Hornady seems to focus on the reduced recoil and feminine marketing angle more than technology in their marketing.
I'm currently using Hornady 115 grain JHP and Winchester Ranger 147 grain JHP as my primary carry and home defense rounds in 9mm ammo. But it seems like, at least at short ranges, the ultra light ammo might have serious advantages in terms of low recoil and high energy transfer.
Compare the energy of any of the ultra light ammo to my Ranger's 147 grain JHP which has a velocity of 985 fps and energy transfer of 320 foot pounds. The energy transfer of the heavier ranger to the ultra light stuff is literally 100+ foot pounds/25+% less than the ultra light rounds. That is significant.
I've never tried any of these types of rounds. Clearly for self/home defense they must be 100% reliable. But assuming they are reliable in my guns, it seems like switching from heavier/slower to much lighter/faster is a wise choice.
Just using LIBERTY's claims as an example:
Anyone try anything like these (in any caliber)?
I'm so old that at one point I learned that low velocity (approx 850 feet per second) 230 grain FMJ 45acp was the ultimate self defense ammunition.
Now I'm seriously considering lightweight (50 to 75 grain) 9mm at 1600 to 2000 feet per second for self defense.
The advantages of the ultra-light + ultra velocity ammo are multiple but include very low recoil and seriously increased energy transfer as measured by foot pounds of energy (at short ranges).
Examples include but may not be limited to:
Liberty Ammo 50 grain, 2040 fps, 462 ft lbs energy . . .
Advanced PDF 65 grain, 1695 fps, 416 ft lbs energy . . .
Cor-Bon's 90 grain, 1500 fps, 450 ft lbs energy . . .
NovX's 65 grain, 1730 fps, 432 ft lbs energy . . .
Cor-Bon is probably the closest thing to a 'name' brand in this group. The major name brands don't seem to offer this ultra-light stuff. Hornady has some 100 grain ammo, which they market to women as low recoil (they even donate a portion to Breast Cancer research) but I'm not sure it is as serious as some of the above brands. Hornady seems to focus on the reduced recoil and feminine marketing angle more than technology in their marketing.
I'm currently using Hornady 115 grain JHP and Winchester Ranger 147 grain JHP as my primary carry and home defense rounds in 9mm ammo. But it seems like, at least at short ranges, the ultra light ammo might have serious advantages in terms of low recoil and high energy transfer.
Compare the energy of any of the ultra light ammo to my Ranger's 147 grain JHP which has a velocity of 985 fps and energy transfer of 320 foot pounds. The energy transfer of the heavier ranger to the ultra light stuff is literally 100+ foot pounds/25+% less than the ultra light rounds. That is significant.
I've never tried any of these types of rounds. Clearly for self/home defense they must be 100% reliable. But assuming they are reliable in my guns, it seems like switching from heavier/slower to much lighter/faster is a wise choice.
Just using LIBERTY's claims as an example:
- 32 to 38% less felt recoil
- - 65 to 75% more velocity
- - 25 to 30% more kinetic energy
- - Reduced over-penetration
- - More stopping power
Anyone try anything like these (in any caliber)?
bloodandgutsmurphy
Master
Paul Harell has made some YouTube videos on lightweight carry ammo. He has had good results with some and with others not so much. IIRC, he is not a big fan of them due to their inability to adequately peneternate a target.
bloodandgutsmurphy
Master
I've carried the Underwood Enhanced penetrators. The bullet tip looks like a Philips screwdriver
hoosierdaddy1976
I Can't Believe it's not Shooter
I think I still have some Ruger ARX in .380 and 9mm. I think it is no longer in production, though.
know the guy that manages the smoke shop (owned by the same guy that owns hobart auto sales) says both are heavily damaged too. smoke shop might be a loss, auto sales office is rebuildableHobart seen a bit of action here lately. Furniture store went up in flames overnight
Overnight Fire Destroys Building - Region News Source
Shortly before midnight Tuesday, Hobart Fire Department responded to a fire at a Furniture and Matress Outlet, 1111 W. Ridge. First arriving personnel found fire through the roof. Adjacent businesses suffered some smoke and water damage, Hobart Fire said. No injuries were reported. This fire is...
nonobaddog
Grandmaster
Brownell's says they just got a bunch of primers.
and they have some discount codes.
and they have some discount codes.
| $20 off $200+ (Excluding Firearms) MARCH50 Expiration Date 3/31/2023 | $125 off $500+ (Excluding Firearms) MARCH125 Expiration Date 3/31/2023 | $200 off $1000+ (Excluding Firearms) MARCH200 Expiration Date 3/31/2023 |
nonobaddog
Grandmaster
Actually $125 off $500 is 25% off
while $200 off $1000 is 20% off
and $20 off $200 is only 10% off
nonobaddog
Grandmaster
Exactly.
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