Not to be insensitive, but Biden is unfit due to senility...

[J Galt]

I've said it before, but as of now, Biden is still just the "presumptive" candidate. I'm not at all sure he'll make it out of the convention. I could be mistaken though.

If you mean that he'll die of old age, I don't think he will.

Your odds of survival are inversely proportional to your societal worth.

 

[russc2542]

They haven't had the first nomination have they? Isn't he still just the "presumptive" candidate? Or did I miss them holding a convention?

My understanding is it was down to him and Bernie and Bernie backed out to discourage people from gathering for candidate conventions.

I've known many people to say they'll vote for him. Some because of trump, yes. Many because he's not an R. Nobody these days is going to change parties because of a few issues these days because the candidates/parties don't overlap on issues anymore, they make more of a point about not being the other guy than what they are.

 

[Ark]

I've said it before, but as of now, Biden is still just the "presumptive" candidate. I'm not at all sure he'll make it out of the convention. I could be mistaken though.

I dunno, anything could happen. The DNC certainly hasn't been shy about asserting their preferences recently, but I don't know how the hell they think people will react to shuffling off the voter's choice and substituting Amy Klobachar or whoever.

 

[Tombs]

My understanding is it was down to him and Bernie and Bernie backed out to discourage people from gathering for candidate conventions.

I've known many people to say they'll vote for him. Some because of trump, yes. Many because he's not an R. Nobody these days is going to change parties because of a few issues these days because the candidates/parties don't overlap on issues anymore, they make more of a point about not being the other guy than what they are.

That's true of older generations, younger generations are a bit more picky about a candidate.
Of young people, even avowed communists, I've seen many pledge to vote for Trump in spite.

 

[Ingomike]

What is the INGO motto? Follow the money! In these cases also keep an eye on little brother, power.

Lets look back first what happened to the RNC when Trump won? Out, Out, Out. He took it over as is somewhat the custom nowadays. Lots of people in power were out along with their lucrative side deals. Heck, even the speaker of the house retired because he couldn't work with Trump, the third in line to the presidency just up and quit because a President started doing what ole Paul said he would do but just never did. (Can you say Hearing Protection Act?)

Most of the candidates in the dem primary were going to upset the power structure, especially the Bern man. The power structure coalesced around Biden and we are witnessing the Weekend at Bernies campaign. Unless the entire dem/media coalition suddenly get scared and turn on Biden he will be the nominee. Don't forget this is not about winning for the current power structure, it is about holding on to power.

HRC, Oprah, and other savior potential candidates would likely also upset the power structure and it is far easier to lob a tweet or two than get down mud with a proven street fighter like Trump, and he will drag them into it deep. His tough head on style may just keep savior candidates at bay.

I currently put the odds on Adams followed by Witmer, it will certainly be a female. Adams is a street fighter too and Witmer was being groomed with the SOTU rebuttal.

 

[Tombs]

And Biden just ****s his pants on live TV...

[video=youtube;C4QnZXIBnjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4QnZXIBnjo[/video]

 

[printcraft]

 

[russc2542]

They haven't had the first nomination have they? Isn't he still just the "presumptive" candidate? Or did I miss them holding a convention?

That's true of older generations, younger generations are a bit more picky about a candidate.
Of young people, even avowed communists, I've seen many pledge to vote for Trump in spite.

True about older gens. I don't think I've heard anyone under 50 speak of him as a viable candidate.

 

[drillsgt]

What is the INGO motto? Follow the money! In these cases also keep an eye on little brother, power.

Lets look back first what happened to the RNC when Trump won? Out, Out, Out. He took it over as is somewhat the custom nowadays. Lots of people in power were out along with their lucrative side deals. Heck, even the speaker of the house retired because he couldn't work with Trump, the third in line to the presidency just up and quit because a President started doing what ole Paul said he would do but just never did. (Can you say Hearing Protection Act?)

Most of the candidates in the dem primary were going to upset the power structure, especially the Bern man. The power structure coalesced around Biden and we are witnessing the Weekend at Bernies campaign. Unless the entire dem/media coalition suddenly get scared and turn on Biden he will be the nominee. Don't forget this is not about winning for the current power structure, it is about holding on to power.

HRC, Oprah, and other savior potential candidates would likely also upset the power structure and it is far easier to lob a tweet or two than get down mud with a proven street fighter like Trump, and he will drag them into it deep. His tough head on style may just keep savior candidates at bay.

I currently put the odds on Adams followed by Witmer, it will certainly be a female. Adams is a street fighter too and Witmer was being groomed with the SOTU rebuttal.

With MI being such a disaster I wouldn't look to Whitmer being called up.

 

[Brad69]

I think “sleepy” Joe’s recent remarks will force him to pick a woman of color.

My odds have always been on Abrams she is the darling of the left as well as being bat&#$@ crazy.

 

[Ingomike]

With MI being such a disaster I wouldn't look to Whitmer being called up.

Republican opinions do not matter in this matter...

Witmer did all this to burnish her bonafides...

 

[klausm]

If they choose Hillery and they somehow manage to win ( someone say voter fraud?) he will be dead faster then you can say Epstein

 

[Liberty Sanders]

If they choose Hillery and they somehow manage to win ( someone say voter fraud?) he will be dead faster then you can say Epstein

​There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that Biden's wife would allow this. If Hillary were VP Biden's life expectancy would be measured in weeks.

 

[jamil]

I think “sleepy” Joe’s recent remarks will force him to pick a woman of color.

My odds have always been on Abrams she is the darling of the left as well as being bat&#$@ crazy.

This could be. I can just imagine him introducing her as his running mate. "...and she's articulate. And clean. And, no malarky, she'll make the boys in the briefing room great sandwiches."

 

[Liberty Sanders]

This could be. I can just imagine him introducing her as his running mate. "...and she's articulate. And clean. And, no malarky, she'll make the boys in the briefing room great sandwiches."[/QUOTE

"...and she's endorsed by the syrup and pancake mix industry. They're put her picture on all of their products!!!"

 

[KG1]

And Biden just ****s his pants on live TV...

[video=youtube;C4QnZXIBnjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4QnZXIBnjo[/video]

That gas escape episode is the most sense he’s made this whole campaign.

 

[jamil]

The look on that other dude's face is hilarious.

I think Biden thought it was silent. Probably had no idea the nation was laughing at him. Old people do that. Can't hear all that well. Think no one heard it. Or, maybe he thought the mic's still have the dynamic range they had in the 70s and didn't pick it up. I mean, it was near silent. But definitely not all air. I think that sour look he had on his face wasn't embarrassment. It was the realization it came with complications.

Tim Pool called it the "shart heard 'round the world."

 

[Joshua]

This is a weird thread. While I believe that neither Biden nor Trump should be anywhere near the Oval Office, with respect to senility they're both obviously relatively equal, which is to say that they're both working with skulls full of rotting oatmeal.

It would be nice to see a candidate who cares about working for the American people, not just sating donor greed while telling comforting lies, but both Republican and Democratic Parties are powerful and have a vested interest in protecting their political cartel. It's easier and more profitable to point at the other guy and screech about how terrible he is than actually help anyone.

 

[Tombs]

This is a weird thread. While I believe that neither Biden nor Trump should be anywhere near the Oval Office, with respect to senility they're both obviously relatively equal, which is to say that they're both working with skulls full of rotting oatmeal.

It would be nice to see a candidate who cares about working for the American people, not just sating donor greed while telling comforting lies, but both Republican and Democratic Parties are powerful and have a vested interest in protecting their political cartel. It's easier and more profitable to point at the other guy and screech about how terrible he is than actually help anyone.

If the republican party is so powerful with their vested interests, how did they allow a reality TV star to hijack their entire party, and make all their future elections about trying to appeal to him, when previously they fought him so hard you'd think he was killing them?

 

[halfmileharry]

Biden (etc) vs Trump won't be an election of a favorite. It will be another case of voting against one of the major candidates.