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    "LPD Chief Scott Galloway said it wasn’t clear who had selected the ban on firearms and on video or audio recordings."


    Oh, Gauleiter, don't change. Your incompetence is a solid given in Lafayette.

    Live action shot of the Lafayette Police Chief attempting to solve the great mystery of who signed the contract for the illegal door signage.

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    So serious question, I understand there are civil actions and associated penalties that can be taken against folks related to this signage, but you mention prosecuting as in criminal prosecution? If so, didn't realize that was a possibility related to this type of signage.

    (some snips from quite a few years back below that I used in a similar emails to get some some signage changed, so they code may be a bit different now)

    IC 3-5-2-38
    "Political subdivision"
    Sec. 38. "Political subdivision" means a county, city, town, township, school corporation, public library, local housing authority, fire protection district, public transportation corporation, local building authority, local hospital authority or corporation, local airport authority, special service district, special taxing district, or other type of local governmental corporate entity.
    They may NOT make any ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy regarding the ownership, possession, carrying, transportation, etc. of a firearm.

    IC 35-47-11.1-2
    ( http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar47/ch11.1.html )
    Political subdivision regulation of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories prohibited
    Sec. 2. Except as provided in section 4 of this chapter, a political subdivision may not regulate:
    (1) firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories;
    (2) the ownership, possession, carrying, transportation, registration, transfer, and storage of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories; and
    (3) commerce in and taxation of firearms, firearm ammunition, and firearm accessories.
    IC 35-47-11.1-3
    Voidance of political subdivision ordinances, measures, enactments, rules, policies, and exercises of proprietary authority
    Sec. 3. Any provision of an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy or exercise of proprietary authority of a political subdivision or of an employee or agent of a political subdivision acting in an official capacity:
    (1) enacted or undertaken before, on, or after June 30, 2011; and
    (2) that pertains to or affects the matters listed in section 2 of this chapter; is void.
    IC 35-47-11.1-5
    Civil actions concerning political subdivision violations
    Sec. 5. A person adversely affected by an ordinance, a measure, an enactment, a rule, or a policy adopted or enforced by a political subdivision that violates this chapter may file an action in a court with competent jurisdiction against the political subdivision for:
    (1) declarative and injunctive relief; and
    (2) actual and consequential damages attributable to the violation.
    As added by P.L.152-2011, SEC.4.
    IC 35-47-11.1-6
    Civil actions; adversely affected persons
    Sec. 6. A person is "adversely affected" for purposes of section 5 of this chapter if either of the following applies:
    (1) The person is an individual who meets all of the following requirements:
    (A) The individual lawfully resides within the United States.
    (B) The individual may legally possess a firearm under the laws of Indiana.
    (C) The individual is or was subject to the ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy of the political subdivision that is the subject of an action filed under section 5 of this chapter. An individual is or was subject to the ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy of the political subdivision if the individual is or was physically present within the boundaries of the political subdivision for any reason.
    (2) The person is a membership organization that:
    (A) includes two (2) or more individuals described in subdivision (1); and
    (B) is dedicated in whole or in part to protecting the rights of persons who possess, own, or use firearms for competitive, sporting, defensive, or other lawful purposes.
    As added by P.L.152-2011, SEC.4.
    IC 35-47-11.1-7
    Civil actions; recovery of damages, costs, and fees
    Sec. 7. A prevailing plaintiff in an action under section 5 of this chapter is entitled to recover from the political subdivision the following:
    (1) The greater of the following:
    (A) Actual damages, including consequential damages.
    (B) Liquidated damages of three (3) times the plaintiff's attorney's fees.
    (2) Court costs (including fees).
    (3) Reasonable attorney's fees.
    As added by P.L.152-2011, SEC.4.
     

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    Personally I think there may have been a better chance at a civil action if the signs wouldn't have been removed before opening.

    As it is now nobody was told to leave, so really no one was violated.

    I imagine the upper management was issued Hillary's book of IT, and there will not be a email that fingers any one person.
     

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    I’ve been wanting one of those “consulting” gigs for years, alas, I just keep going to work and operating machinery that most “consultants” couldn’t dream of even figuring out how to power up.
    Oh come on, Tommy, Flipping a switch to turn on the lights isn’t really operating machinery… though I will admit it’s probably beyond the abilities of many consultants. :cool: :stickpoke:
     

    Mgderf

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    Oh come on, Tommy, Flipping a switch to turn on the lights isn’t really operating machinery… though I will admit it’s probably beyond the abilities of many consultants. :cool: :stickpoke:
    I have a cousin that called herself a "welder" because that's what the job accomplished.
    The problem is, she sat in an air-conditioned booth pushing buttons to run a robotic welder.

    She was a machine operator, not a welder.
    There are many, many wire/stick burners out there but they are not welders.
     

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    So serious question, I understand there are civil actions and associated penalties that can be taken against folks related to this signage, but you mention prosecuting as in criminal prosecution? If so, didn't realize that was a possibility related to this type of signage.

    You are searching the wrong sovereign's statutes.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    I figured. Can you provide some additional info? Thank you

    Additional info? Not tracking. Do you mean which federal statute? If so, this is a potential 18 USC §242 (the Klu Klux Klan Act) prosecution, like what the feds got the IMPD cop for today. It is federal, not State.

    See if this helps:

     
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    Additional info? Not tracking. Do you mean which federal statute? If so, this is a potential 18 USC §242 (the Klu Klux Klan Act) prosecution, like what the feds got the IMPD cop for today. It is federal, not State.

    See if this helps:

    Interesting. Seems like that could be used to charge most of the US Congress and a bunch of others (ATF, etc) that seemingly want to deprive us of rights on a daily basis.
     
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